Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgment on Case 2403

2009-03-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: I CFJ the following statement: { If a rule requires a player to perform an action without making it possible for em to do so, and there is a rule forbidding em from doing so, e can take no action that is not in violation of a rule. } This is, I think,

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2411 assigned to Goethe

2009-03-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2411 == CFJ 2411 == If a rule requires a player to perform an action without making it possible for em to do so, and there is a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgment on Case 2403

2009-03-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 23:02 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: Since it seems unreasonable to add an obligation retroactively due to changing circumstances, it seems equally unreasonable to remove one. I judge case 2403 to be TRUE.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [s-b] [s-d] (no subject)

2009-03-13 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote: I wrote: Consultation: After an External Force forfeits the game, does the Outsider associated with them continue to exist and retain any of its Attributes and Properties not explicitly removed by the rules? This is Consultation 223. I assign it to Priest ais523 (who has about

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgment on Case 2403

2009-03-13 Thread comex
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: (Note that since this is still a clause in a rule, you might still avoid criminal prosecution due to being EXCUSED if you have conflicting contracts, but you wouldn't avoid an unfavorable equity settlement which could

DIS: Re: BUS: Yet Another CFJ

2009-03-13 Thread comex
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: So how does that translate for SHALL-CAN? Gratuitous: SHALL and CAN are supposed to be orthogonal, and it's perfectly reasonable to require someone to perform an action by a certain mechanism without actually allowing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yet Another CFJ

2009-03-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, comex wrote: The special case of a simple 'X SHALL do Y by mechanism was established in CFJs 1765 and 1890 to imply the mechanism, but I'd argue that's just an archaic linguistic shortcut, not a necessary side-effect of the SHALL. Sorry, you're right; but the CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yet Another CFJ

2009-03-13 Thread comex
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, comex wrote: The special case of a simple 'X SHALL do Y by mechanism was established in CFJs 1765 and 1890 to imply the mechanism, but I'd argue that's just an archaic linguistic shortcut, not a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yet Another CFJ

2009-03-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, comex wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, comex wrote: The special case of a simple 'X SHALL do Y by mechanism was established in CFJs 1765 and 1890 to imply the mechanism, but I'd argue that's just an

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly Notary fugly bletch

2009-03-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 14:19 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: G1 G2 G3 I terminate the above 3 pledges (assuming they're the ones that are mine, which I believe can be terminated by my announcement). -Goethe Yep, that succeeds. -- ais523 Notary

DIS: Re: BUS: Elections!

2009-03-13 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: Herald: Sgeo, Yally, Goethe G to tha oe to tha t-h-e Tailor: Wooble, ais523 ais to tha 5 to tha 23 Anarchist: ehird, Yally, Tiger e to tha hird You kids get off my lizawn!