DIS: Re: BUS: Encoding Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Warrigal
2009/7/8 Warrigal : > LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H > LATIN SMALL LETTER O > LATIN SMALL LETTER W Please disregard this message. It is a typo. --Warrigal

DIS: Re: BUS: Encoding Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Warrigal
LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H LATIN SMALL LETTER O LATIN SMALL LETTER W

DIS: Re: BUS: Last-minute Spending

2009-07-07 Thread Sgeo
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I spend E E to give ais523 an E Note. > > I spend E E to destroy one of Sgeo's Rests. > Thank you.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Some interesting changes

2009-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I object. If it's completely unpaid, who's going to bother doing a >> good job of it? > > Arguably it's paid by not having to pay to make the proposals > Distributable, so someone who really likes propsing repeals might do > it

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2596 assigned to BobTHJ

2009-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > I thought I had disfavored cases related to this issue. You have disfavored: * 2558-60 on June 2 * 2586 on June 16 * 2590 on June 17 * 2623 on July 2 (each time appending something like "and all related cases", but note that this only applies to cases that already exist at

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2586a assigned to coppro, Yally, ais523

2009-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
c. wrote: > I publish OVERRULE/FALSE as the Justiciar's Opinion concurring with > coppro's arguments. (Murphy, you've been violating a SHOULD by not > reminding me of this; intentional or an oversight?) Mostly an oversight; four days is a relatively small window. I'll see about maintaining a fu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Encoding Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: Players SHALL NOT send a public message with a markup that makes the text unreadable when viewed in raw form. > > So we shall not post an encoded string, for example, to specifically > encode an Enigma conte

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Encoding Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> Players SHALL NOT >>> send a public message with a markup that makes the text unreadable >>> when viewed in raw form. So we shall not post an encoded string, for example, to specifically encode an Enigma contest answer? -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Encoding Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
ais523 wrote: > On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 10:37 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Proposal: Encodings (AI=3 II=2) >> {{{ >> Enact a new power-3 rule entitled "Communications" >> {{ >> For the purposes of this message, an encoding is any manner of >> interpreting text, including the base character

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Some interesting changes

2009-07-07 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 13:10 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > I object. If it's completely unpaid, who's going to bother doing a > > good job of it? > > Arguably it's paid by not having to pay to make the proposals > Distributable, so someone who

DIS: Re: BUS: Encoding Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 10:37 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > Proposal: Encodings (AI=3 II=2) > {{{ > Enact a new power-3 rule entitled "Communications" > {{ > For the purposes of this message, an encoding is any manner of > interpreting text, including the base character encoding and any >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 08:31 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, > > I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN > publish whatever I want. Probably the creation

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > Sorry, re-reading this thread, maybe I missed something: was this a > systematic attempt to break out every instance in the Rules in which two > different actions in a single rule are two different ways of breaking > the rules? I think the fact that there were only a few in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I can understand that. In that case, just drop all specific officer- > lateness tinkering (e.g. the Herald) and you're good to go! I guess > my whole point is: re-level systematically, or re-level none, but don't > re-level 2 or 3 picked more-or-less at r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> True, but the problem now is that the severity of the offense really >> has nothing to do with the power of the rule, which is the current >> default. Many tasks are at high AI because a quantity happens to be >> secured, not because th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > True, but the problem now is that the severity of the offense really > has nothing to do with the power of the rule, which is the current > default. Many tasks are at high AI because a quantity happens to be > secured, not because the task is inherently more important. In fac

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> Hmm... while I like this, it does have the drawback that then all >> deadlines are equal when they shouldn't be. Really Bad Trumpeting is a >> far lesser offense than failing to distribute proposals. >> > But since all these actions can be deputized anyway

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >> If a rule states that a certain person is required to perform an >> action within a specified time limit, and does not name a Specific >> crime for failure to comply within the time limit, then failure >> is the Specific Crime of Delay of Gam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Encoding Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Enact a new power-3 rule entitled "Communications" >> Players MAY but SHOULD NOT send public messages with formatting >> markup (such as HTML) that does not obfuscate the text, except >> where otherwise specified. A

DIS: Re: BUS: Encoding Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread comex
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Enact a new power-3 rule entitled "Communications" >      Players MAY but SHOULD NOT send public messages with formatting >      markup (such as HTML) that does not obfuscate the text, except >      where otherwise specified. A message (or portion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:47, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I was thinking of something like the following: >> >>     If a rule states that a certain person is required to perform an >>     action within a specified time limit, and does not name a Specific >>     crime for failure to com

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Some interesting changes

2009-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > I object.  If it's completely unpaid, who's going to bother doing a > good job of it? Arguably it's paid by not having to pay to make the proposals Distributable, so someone who really likes propsing repeals might do it for free.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, >>> I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN >>> publish whatever I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> You don't need this to do that. They're two separate paragraphs and >>> two separate types of actions, so they're already two different ways of >>> violating the rule. Point remains: "lateness of an Officer's asa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> You don't need this to do that. They're two separate paragraphs and >> two separate types of actions, so they're already two different ways of >> violating the rule. Point remains: "lateness of an Officer's asap duty" >> should be a g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > You don't need this to do that. They're two separate paragraphs and > two separate types of actions, so they're already two different ways of > violating the rule. Point remains: "lateness of an Officer's asap duty" > should be a general rule with a leveled set of consequen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> As soon as possible after a patent title is awarded or revoked, >>> the Herald SHALL announce the award or revocation. Failure to do >>> so is the Crime of Really Awful Trumpetry. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >> As soon as possible after a patent title is awarded or revoked, >> the Herald SHALL announce the award or revocation. Failure to do >> so is the Crime of Really Awful Trumpetry. > > > If you're going to single out one

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, >> I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN >> publish whatever I want. Probably the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>      A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, > > I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN > publish whatever I want. Probably the creation of the NoV shou

DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > As soon as possible after a patent title is awarded or revoked, > the Herald SHALL announce the award or revocation. Failure to do > so is the Crime of Really Awful Trumpetry. If you're going to single out one officer, or a small set of offi

DIS: Re: BUS: Too Busy

2009-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I nominate myself, comex, Murphy, Wooble, and ehird for Janitor. I decline; I can submit a proposal to repeal the Janitor rule every week without being elected to do so.

DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: >      A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN publish whatever I want. Probably the creation of the NoV should be separated from the publication of the allegati

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: IADoP Poobah

2009-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Yes, *unless* the office is vacant, in which case the holder of the office > is null, then there is *not* exactly one vote collector, and the first > sentence is in contradiction with the second sentence.  At which point, you > drop the latter s

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Registrar Election is FAILING QUORUM

2009-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Huh? It won't change the timing. If it stops failing quorum, the election can be ended unless something changed recently.