DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2628-29 assigned to woggle

2009-07-10 Thread Charles Reiss
On 7/10/09 10:39 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Charles Reiss wrote: >> On 7/9/09 10:58 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2628 >>> >>> == CFJ 2628 == >>> >>> My judicial rank is 4. >>> >>> ===

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2619 (II=0) assigned to Pavitra

2009-07-10 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Benjamin > Caplan wrote: >> Sean Hunt wrote: >>> I believe e is aware of one contract to which I am a party. >> Oh well. >> >>> I intend, with consent of its members, to terminate it, by the way. >> NttPF. >> > > Wooble is not party to it, and it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2619 (II=0) assigned to Pavitra

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Sean Hunt wrote: >> I believe e is aware of one contract to which I am a party. > Oh well. > >> I intend, with consent of its members, to terminate it, by the way. > NttPF. > Wooble is not party to it, and it's not a dependent action, so th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2619 (II=0) assigned to Pavitra

2009-07-10 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Sean Hunt wrote: > I believe e is aware of one contract to which I am a party. Oh well. > I intend, with consent of its members, to terminate it, by the way. NttPF.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2619 (II=0) assigned to Pavitra

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Although you may not reveal the text or membership of private contracts, > you may divulge their existence. How many private contracts are you > currently aware of? (If the answer is four, I can infer FALSE, since > according to the Notary wiki there are four publicly known

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2619 (II=0) assigned to Pavitra

2009-07-10 Thread Benjamin Caplan
ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 03:56 -0500, Benjamin Caplan wrote: >> I hereby request any and all persons to submit evidence and arguments, >> either publicly or by private email to me, that may be relevant to this >> case. In particular, I would be interested in hearing from H. Caller c.,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Exploit exploit

2009-07-10 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > You're half right, but you're missing my point.  What I'm saying is that > the second mention of the "exploit" refers to the exploit on the card in > the player's hand.  So right now, it reads that "If a card has an exploit" > (which  is true, I

DIS: Re: BUS: Withdrawal

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/7/10 comex : >> I withdraw all of my current objections to dependent actions. >> >> -- >> -c. >> > > I object to all dependent actions comex was objecting to before that message. The only one I can think of was my action to amend Cookie Jar; please withdraw that.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Exploit exploit

2009-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> The scam? As I said in an earlier email, the articles and clauses >> are a little unclearly placed but hardly strongly supporting comex's >> interpretation, and you'd need very strong support as the intended >> reading is abundantly cl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Exploit exploit

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > The scam? As I said in an earlier email, the articles and clauses > are a little unclearly placed but hardly strongly supporting comex's > interpretation, and you'd need very strong support as the intended > reading is abundantly clear. The intent is irrelevant. The actual

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Exploit exploit

2009-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, comex wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: I also intend, without objection (independently), to ratify the following (definitively) incorrect document: { The first pa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> We decided a while back that "X SHALL Y" implies "X CAN Y". Probably >> should be legislated explicitly, though. > > Only when a mechanism is specified. > Publishing is a mechanism.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > We decided a while back that "X SHALL Y" implies "X CAN Y".  Probably > should be legislated explicitly, though. Only when a mechanism is specified. -- -c.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Exploit exploit

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, comex wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> I also intend, without objection (independently), to ratify the >>> following (definitively) incorrect document: >>> >>> { >>> The first paragraph of Rule 2256 reads as follows: > > Just

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread Ed Murphy
c-walker wrote: > I CFJ {{ The Conductor CAN publish a self-ratifying report. }} > > Evidence: > > R2126 states: > > The Conductor is an office. As soon as possible after this text > becomes a part of this rule, the Conductor SHALL publish a > self-ratifying report containing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM, ais523 wrote: >> e CAN certainly publish a report; but I don't see how R101 makes it a >> self-ratifying report. > > Precedent says that if you SHALL perform an action by some mechanism, > you CAN do it by that mechanism

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM, ais523 wrote: > e CAN certainly publish a report; but I don't see how R101 makes it a > self-ratifying report. Precedent says that if you SHALL perform an action by some mechanism, you CAN do it by that mechanism. Is being required to "publish" something specifyin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 12:44 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > C-walker wrote: > > I CFJ {{ The Conductor CAN publish a self-ratifying report. }} > > > > Evidence: > > > > R2126 states: > > > > The Conductor is an office. As soon as possible after this text > > becomes a part of this rule, t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
C-walker wrote: > I CFJ {{ The Conductor CAN publish a self-ratifying report. }} > > Evidence: > > R2126 states: > > The Conductor is an office. As soon as possible after this text > becomes a part of this rule, the Conductor SHALL publish a > self-ratifying report containing

DIS: Re: OFF: [Note Exchange] Report

2009-07-10 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 10:12 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Any thoughts on how we should proceed? We could convert this to a > Card exchange, let an equity judge sort out an equitable way to deal > with notes disappearing, or just terminate it altogether (which would > probably be unfair to ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Some interesting changes

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
Sean Hunt wrote: > I intend, without objection, to set the II of the Scorekeepor office to > 2. While none of the duties of the Scorekeepor are particularly > difficult, there are now a whole lot of them, including recordkeeping > two assets and a switch and maintaining points limits. II 1 doesn't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Exploit exploit

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> I also intend, without objection (independently), to ratify the >> following (definitively) incorrect document: >> >> { >> The first paragraph of Rule 2256 reads as follows: >> A player CAN play a card in eir possession which

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6387 - 6394

2009-07-10 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 23:17 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > When a judgement is overruled on appeal, if the prior judge's > rank is higher than 0, then it is decreased by 1, and e CANNOT > increase it for 30 days afterward (the rest of this rule > notwithstanding), unless eir new

DIS: Re: BUS: Exploit exploit

2009-07-10 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I also intend, without objection (independently), to ratify the > following (definitively) incorrect document: > > { > The first paragraph of Rule 2256 reads as follows: >      A player CAN play a card in eir possession which has an exploit by >  

DIS: Re: BUS: Exploit exploit

2009-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, comex wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> As Grand Poobah, I deal the following cards to the following players >> (bootstrap deals): > > Rule 2256 (Exploit Cards) reads: > > If a card has an Exploit, a player CAN play a card in eir > posse

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Position Cards

2009-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Wooble wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> The Speaker CAN form a government this quarter if e desires. >> >> H. Assessor Murphy, is there any chance you could fix >> http://zenith.homelinux.net/assessor/similarity.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Grand Poobah] First Deals

2009-07-10 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, comex wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> [Card deals] >> >> Psh. > > What's the issue here?  The randomizer picked these I haven't (or hadn't) > even looked at what they are yet...  -G. 'com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Grand Poobah] First Deals

2009-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, comex wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> [Card deals] > > Psh. What's the issue here? The randomizer picked these I haven't (or hadn't) even looked at what they are yet... -G.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Position Cards

2009-07-10 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> The Speaker CAN form a government this quarter if e desires. > > H. Assessor Murphy, is there any chance you could fix > http://zenith.homelinux.net/assessor/similarity.php to make it easier > to reward people who vote like me

DIS: Re: BUS: [Grand Poobah] First Deals

2009-07-10 Thread comex
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > To ais523 : Arm-twist > To ais523 : Roll Call > To ais523 : No Confidence > To ais523 : Debate-o-Matic > To ais523 : Local Election > To ais523 : Local Election > To ais523 : Lobbyist > To ais523 : Roll Call > To ais523 : Arm-twist > To ais523 :

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Position Cards

2009-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The Speaker CAN form a government this quarter if e desires. H. Assessor Murphy, is there any chance you could fix http://zenith.homelinux.net/assessor/similarity.php to make it easier to reward people who vote like me with positions in the gov

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >           schwa      (2625-26)       (basis: allispaul, c., coppro, >                                       Warrigal, teucer) I believe I'm part of schwa's basis; I know there was sentiment for kicking me out, but I can't find any public message

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2009-07-10 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > I CoE this one too, just in case. (The SLR should be non-empty.) The rules aren't self-ratifying, and can't even be ratified without objection.

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2619 (II=0) assigned to Pavitra

2009-07-10 Thread Benjamin Caplan
> === CFJ 2619 (Interest Index = 0) > > Wooble is party to at least one private contract containing the > word "inferences". > > By the power vested in me by the Crown of Bone,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Grand Poobah] First Deals

2009-07-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> As Grand Poobah, I deal the following cards to the following players > > Might want to make clear you do the same by deputization if you aren't > Poobah. Can't do that anymore: you're not the default officeholder any more (just realize

DIS: Re: BUS: [Grand Poobah] First Deals

2009-07-10 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > As Grand Poobah, I deal the following cards to the following players Might want to make clear you do the same by deputization if you aren't Poobah.