Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Rest Report

2009-08-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 00:40, Ed Murphy wrote: > BobTHJ wrote: > >> Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:36 - NOV #3 - coppro accuses coppro of rule/crime >> R2168 with a severity of 1 because: Anarchist election notice >> Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:36 - coppro closes NOV #3, 1 rests created in >> coppro's possession >> F

DIS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Rest Report

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:36 - NOV #3 - coppro accuses coppro of rule/crime > R2168 with a severity of 1 because: Anarchist election notice > Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:36 - coppro closes NOV #3, 1 rests created in > coppro's possession > Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:36 - coppro plays Absolv-o-Matic to

DIS: Re: BUS: Strike Colors

2009-08-05 Thread Taral
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I think all flag candidates were dead/impossible anyway (the recent > CFJ aside).  This is simply an illustration that, due to the second- > to-last paragraph of R2124, any w/o N objections action combined with > a time limit is effectively the s

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Pavitra
Ed Murphy wrote: > Pavitra wrote: > >> As a supplement/alternative, what would people think of criminalizing >> large numbers of public messages -- say, 8 or 16 per person per week? It >> wouldn't platonically cancel any messages, and it should encourage >> people to lump their actions together. O

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Taral
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the > Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name > agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists AGAINST -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I ca

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: > As a supplement/alternative, what would people think of criminalizing > large numbers of public messages -- say, 8 or 16 per person per week? It > wouldn't platonically cancel any messages, and it should encourage > people to lump their actions together. On the other hand, it migh

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Pavitra
Kerim Aydin wrote: > Still, how about this compromise: start with Agora-Contracts as a > discussion forum, encourage contests to amend their charters to allow > "boring" business to happen there, then make it public later if that > doesn't work. This feels like the right solution to me. It combi

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I nomic in many spare cycles in a traveling/many multiple computer job, so > can't depend on an installed base.  Dislike most web clients (hate gmail > for reason you mentioned) - most dependable I've got is term window and > Pine (after many ye

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, comex wrote: > On Aug 5, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I have every reason to do so; it's my preferred way to look back at most >> things. -G. > > Why? I nomic in many spare cycles in a traveling/many multiple computer job, so can't depend on an installed base. Di

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread comex
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I have every reason to do so; it's my preferred way to look back at most things. -G. Why?

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, comex wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> Non-recordkeepors, however, won't. >> >> Actually, it will be a positive pain for recordkeepors (searching multiple >> archives), for whom I have more sympathy. > > I don't; there's no reason to be using the

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > That being said, I've wished for over a year that the AAA would just > find their own darn list. I don't see why we should make things harder > on the recorkeepors for their convenience. Alternative: create Agora-Contests; make it a discussion forum for

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Non-recordkeepors, however, won't. > > Actually, it will be a positive pain for recordkeepors (searching multiple > archives), for whom I have more sympathy. I don't; there's no reason to be using the agoranomic.org archives, which are handy in

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, comex wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> AGAINST.  Encourage minor contest traffic elsewhere, instead. >> (All recordkeepors will have to check all PFs anyway, so nothing >> is gained).  -G. > > Non-recordkeepors, however, won't. Actually, it will b

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread comex
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > AGAINST.  Encourage minor contest traffic elsewhere, instead. > (All recordkeepors will have to check all PFs anyway, so nothing > is gained).  -G. Non-recordkeepors, however, won't. -- -c.

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the > Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name > agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists, and the Registrar should > subsequently make it Public. The valid options are FOR, AGA

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6403-6413

2009-08-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> I support this. I think agora-actions would be an appropriate name for >> this forum? >> > While it sounds like a good idea in theory I think in practice this > would lead to a lot of NttAF messages (well, I guess actions sent to > a-b would still be legal

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the > Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name > agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists, and the Registrar should s/business/actions/ > subsequently make it Public. The valid options are FOR, AGAINST

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Rulekeepor Election

2009-08-05 Thread Sean Hunt
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> This message serves to initiate the Agoran Decision to decide the >> holder of the office of Rulekeepor. For this Decision, the >> eligible voters are all the active first-class players, eac

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Rulekeepor Election

2009-08-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 17:03, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I refuse my nomination. Trying to catch up on a year of annotations >> seemed like a great idea at first, but it would seriously detract from >> the already-neglected WaveNomic and Livenomic.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Rulekeepor Election

2009-08-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 17:03, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I refuse my nomination. Trying to catch up on a year of annotations > seemed like a great idea at first, but it would seriously detract from > the already-neglected WaveNomic and Livenomic. > Wavenomic?

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
AGAINST; we already have 4 public fora. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the > Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name > agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists, and the Registrar should > subsequ

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread comex
FOR. There's no advantage of a digest over a second list that can be sequestered into its own folder/label, and many disadvantages. I will just lump the messages into the same label for reading, but I can see the need for reducing traffic. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2009, at 6:21 PM,

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/8/6 Sean Hunt : > I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the > Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name > agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists, and the Registrar should > subsequently make it Public. The valid options are FOR, AGAINST, and > PRESE

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6403-6413

2009-08-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 16:12, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 15:45, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Even a partial diversion of traffic would help. >>> >> I guess I don't see how. Since it would have to be a PF every one >> would have to be subs

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Pavitra
Sean Hunt wrote: > I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the > Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name > agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists, and the Registrar should > subsequently make it Public. The valid options are FOR, AGAINST, and > PRESENT.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6403-6413

2009-08-05 Thread Pavitra
Sean Hunt wrote: > I will vehemently oppose any motion to make web interfaces > official in any capacity, unless someone proposes a web interface that > is neutral to all Agorans and retains the nomicness. We can of course have _supplemental_ web interfaces to the mailing lists, like BobTHJ's card

Re: DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 16:21, Sean Hunt wrote: > I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the > Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name > agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists, and the Registrar should > subsequently make it Public. The valid options are

DIS: Straw Poll: agora-actions

2009-08-05 Thread Sean Hunt
I hereby initiate a Straw Poll to decide whether or not the Distributor should add another forum (tentatively with the name agora-business) to the agoranomic.org lists, and the Registrar should subsequently make it Public. The valid options are FOR, AGAINST, and PRESENT. The set of eligible voters

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6403-6413

2009-08-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 15:45, Ed Murphy wrote: > Even a partial diversion of traffic would help. > I guess I don't see how. Since it would have to be a PF every one would have to be subscribed to it anyway, so no real reduction in message traffic. Just more work for new players (one more list to su

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6403-6413

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 15:38, Sean Hunt wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Pavitra wrote: >>> I'd like to reopen my not-really-a-proposal to split a-b into two >>> mailing lists. >>> >>> One would be a high-signal list where "contentful" actions like >>> submitting proposals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6403-6413

2009-08-05 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 15:38, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Pavitra wrote: >> I'd like to reopen my not-really-a-proposal to split a-b into two >> mailing lists. >> >> One would be a high-signal list where "contentful" actions like >> submitting proposals, delivering judgements

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: rulekeepor's notes on proposals 6403-6413

2009-08-05 Thread Pavitra
Roger Hicks wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 17:53, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Actions take place on the lists for a reason. �If actions take place >> off-list, others have no way of verifying them. >> > I agree that actions take place on the lists for a reason, but I think > those reasons can be mitigated

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Still No Witty Name Report

2009-08-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/8/5 Sean Hunt : > Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >> 2009/8/5 Sean Hunt : >>> Tiger                     OGCBKWM           7 >> (...) >>> Ultraviolet    Be awarded Champion (win Agora) >> I award myself an Ultraviolet ribbon for my Win by Highscore a while ago. >> > Ineffective (at least from my point o

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Still No Witty Name Report

2009-08-05 Thread Sean Hunt
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/8/5 Sean Hunt : >> Tiger OGCBKWM 7 > (...) >> UltravioletBe awarded Champion (win Agora) > I award myself an Ultraviolet ribbon for my Win by Highscore a while ago. > Ineffective (at least from my point of view), it's been more than a

Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ฉันลง ทะเบียน

2009-08-05 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > 2009/8/4 yuri_dragon_17 : >> comex wrote: >> >> 2009/8/4 yuri_dragon_17 : >> >> >> yuri_dragon_17 wrote: >> >> >> ฉันลงทะเบียน >> >> >> >> Some players suggested that to make things easier I should register >> unambiguously. So, >> I register. >> >> >> NttPF

DIS: Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ????? ???????

2009-08-05 Thread Roger Hicks
2009/8/5 Elliott Hird : > I'm not entirely sure this counts as a tttpf for the relevant message... > I seemed a reasonable synonym to me. The intent was clear. BobTHJ

DIS: Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ฉันลงทะเ บียน

2009-08-05 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/8/4 yuri_dragon_17 : > comex wrote: > > 2009/8/4 yuri_dragon_17 : > > > yuri_dragon_17 wrote: > > > ฉันลงทะเบียน > > > > Some players suggested that to make things easier I should register > unambiguously. So, > I register. > > > NttPF - that is to say, such messages need to be sent to > agora