Re: DIS: Re: BUS: NoVs

2009-09-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: You're right, I should have clarified I was suggesting that it was possible grounds for DISCHARGE rather than not guilty, that's the only place for custom to enter.  However, I'd say that I didn't know the election

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 09:48, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: Audits are Too Severe (AI=2, II=1) {{{ Amend Rule 2259 by replacing      Any entity CAN audit itself by announcement. When an active      player is audited that player gains one Rest for each      rule-defined card e owns in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Sean Hunt
Roger Hicks wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 09:48, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: Audits are Too Severe (AI=2, II=1) {{{ Amend Rule 2259 by replacing Any entity CAN audit itself by announcement. When an active player is audited that player gains one Rest for each

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 09:58, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: Roger Hicks wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 09:48, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: Audits are Too Severe (AI=2, II=1) {{{ Amend Rule 2259 by replacing      Any entity CAN audit itself by announcement. When an active      player

DIS: Error

2009-09-02 Thread comex
http://nomic.bob-space.com/agoralog.aspx -- -c.

Re: DIS: Error

2009-09-02 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/9/2 comex com...@gmail.com: http://nomic.bob-space.com/agoralog.aspx It sure would be nice if this centralised automation was at all accessible, huh.

Re: DIS: Error

2009-09-02 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:18, comexcom...@gmail.com wrote: http://nomic.bob-space.com/agoralog.aspx I fixed it. Sorry for the trouble. BobTHJ

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Contract Change

2009-09-02 Thread comex
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, ais523callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Gratuitous: Although I did in fact review this intent (as can easily be determined from PerlNomic's logs), I didn't have a reasonable opportunity to review it (a few hours is not a reasonable opportunity); and what R101

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Contract Change

2009-09-02 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:38 -0400, comex wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:35 PM, ais523callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Gratuitous: Although I did in fact review this intent (as can easily be determined from PerlNomic's logs), I didn't have a reasonable opportunity to review it (a few

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Contract Change

2009-09-02 Thread comex
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:42 PM, ais523callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Gratuitous: You are mistaking the meaning of reasonable opportunity. The meaning in R101 implies, to me, that it's reasonable to conclude that the player would have had the opportunity no matter what the circumstances;

DIS: Re: BUS: CoE Acceptance

2009-09-02 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:57 -0400, comex wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM, The PerlNomic Partnershipperlno...@nomictools.com wrote: ais523 wrote (referring to a message sent from this email earlier today): Additionally: CoE: you are not the PerlNomic Partnership, due to being on the

DIS: Re: BUS: CoE Acceptance

2009-09-02 Thread comex
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM, ais523callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: but if the second one was, then the first one wasn't, as it denies that the first one was sent by it (i.e. accepting the CoE); the Executor of the first message is definitely comex, and it's plausible to reason that it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP amendment

2009-09-02 Thread comex
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I make the above change, assuming ais523 and I were actually the last 2 people to be active on PerlNomic when the file making us active was deleted.  (This is probably impossible to determine, but seems very likely

DIS: Re: OFF: [Grand Poobah] Deck of Government report

2009-09-02 Thread Charles Walker
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Jonatan Kilhamnjonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:       === Grand Poobah's Deck of Government report === Suggestion for addition to this and all other card reports: what cards actually do. I can never remember. -- C-walker (Charles Walker)

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Grand Poobah] Deck of Government report

2009-09-02 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/9/2 Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Jonatan Kilhamnjonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote:       === Grand Poobah's Deck of Government report === Suggestion for addition to this and all other card reports: what cards actually do. I can never

DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:25, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Amend Rule 2259 (Hand Limits) by appending this text:      As soon as possible after the beginning of each month, each dealer      of a basic deck SHALL by announcement audit each entity who owns      at least as many cards

DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I play Arm-Twist, naming coppro and the decision on Proposal 6466. I play Arm-Twist, naming coppro and the decision on Proposal 6466. I play Arm-Twist, naming ehird and the decision on Proposal 6466. I play Arm-Twist,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CoE Acceptance

2009-09-02 Thread Pavitra
comex wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM, ais523callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: but if the second one was, then the first one wasn't, as it denies that the first one was sent by it (i.e. accepting the CoE); the Executor of the first message is definitely comex, and it's plausible to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 15:55 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I play Arm-Twist, naming coppro and the decision on Proposal 6466. I play Arm-Twist, naming coppro and the decision on Proposal 6466. I play Arm-Twist, naming

DIS: My Presto! card

2009-09-02 Thread Sgeo
I believe there are at least two people who want my Presto! card. What are your offers?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:25, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Amend Rule 2259 (Hand Limits) by appending this text: As soon as possible after the beginning of each month, each dealer of a basic deck SHALL by announcement audit each entity who owns at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I play Arm-Twist, naming coppro and the decision on Proposal 6466. I play Arm-Twist, naming coppro and the decision on Proposal 6466. I play Arm-Twist, naming ehird and the decision on Proposal 6466. I play

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: Also, why 6466 anyway? I don't get what's so important about that proposal. Consider what happens when a smart-ass Justiciar assigns ID number 99. Just because we haven't had any chaotic ID numbers yet doesn't mean the concept isn't useful.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread comex
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: ais523 wrote: Also, why 6466 anyway? I don't get what's so important about that proposal. Consider what happens when a smart-ass Justiciar assigns ID number 99.  Just because we haven't had any chaotic ID

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Kill it with fire

2009-09-02 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 07:37, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal:  Kill it with fire (AI = 2, please) Terminate the contract known as Points Party at the time this proposal was submitted. Wouldn't this fail due to the retroactive effect? Why not just terminate as of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Kill it with fire

2009-09-02 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 07:37, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal: Kill it with fire (AI = 2, please) Terminate the contract known as Points Party at the time this proposal was submitted. Wouldn't this fail due to the retroactive effect? Why not just terminate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Pavitra
Ed Murphy wrote: I spend a Distrib-u-Matic to make the following proposal distributable. Proposal: Chaotic fix I think this works, but it would be nice to be sure. Does the proposal exist yet when the Distrib-u-Matic is played earlier in the message? We've generally treated actions within a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Card plays and a proposal

2009-09-02 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: Ed Murphy wrote: I wrote: I play Kill Bill, naming the decision on Proposal 6466. TTttPF You realize this undoes all your voting limit playing? Yes, the point is that much of that voting limit playing was botched due to Arm-Twist being worded wrong.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Kill it with fire

2009-09-02 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 16:20, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: BobTHJ wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 07:37, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal:  Kill it with fire (AI = 2, please) Terminate the contract known as Points Party at the time this proposal was submitted.