DIS: Re: BUS: Apology and proposals

2012-02-16 Thread Tanner Swett
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Create a rule titled "Ballot Fees" with this text: > >      A player CAN change eir voting limit on a specified Agoran >      decision to twice its original value for a cost of 1 ruble. Does "original value" mean its value at the beginning of th

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3165 assigned to scshunt

2012-02-16 Thread Tanner Swett
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3165 > > ==  CFJ 3165  == > >    omd is a complete idiot. > > ==

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7164 and 7166 - 7173

2012-02-16 Thread omd
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I CFJ (linked) on: >     (1) The Prisoner is a player. >     Arguments:  E never explicitly consented (R101iii). > >     (2) The Prisoner's R101(vii) rights have been violated. >     Arguments:  If e is a player, eir ability to deregister is >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7164 and 7166 - 7173

2012-02-16 Thread omd
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > [It's often bothered me that R101 could be gotten around by redefining > "person" (for example via R2150). This is only a problem now that Rule 2150 is Power 3...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7164 and 7166 - 7173

2012-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, omd wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > [It's often bothered me that R101 could be gotten around by redefining > > "person" (for example via R2150). > > This is only a problem now that Rule 2150 is Power 3... Well, if the "common dictionary" de

DIS: Re: BUS: Here goes nothing

2012-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, omd wrote: > I cause Mr. Incredible to make each of the following players inactive: Huh. I could have sworn I secured activity when I used it for a scam last year. > Arguments: Making ais523 inactive is an action that is "not otherwise > IMPOSSIBLE"-- in particular, ais52

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Here goes nothing

2012-02-16 Thread omd
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Didn't this come up in another scam, that "otherwise impossible" > includes things that are "regulated" as being "otherwise impossible to > change" except as defined?  I say "came up", I don't say I remember the > decision! http://zenith.homel

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2012-02-16 Thread omd
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, omd wrote: >> THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET > > COE:  The text of R2130 is incorrect (and 1006 too). > > The ruleset (and omd's rules website) seems to be missing some effects > of Proposal 6959 (30-Jan-2011, more recent than t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2012-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, omd wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, omd wrote: > > >> THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET > > > > > > COE:  The text of R2130 is incorrect (and 1006 too). > > > > > > The ruleset (and o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Short Logical Ruleset

2012-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, omd wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, omd wrote: > >> THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET > > > > COE:  The text of R2130 is incorrect (and 1006 too). > > > > The ruleset (and omd's rules website) seems to be missing some effects > >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3165 assigned to scshunt

2012-02-16 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:21, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Evidence > > [Registrar's Report 1-Feb-2012 extract] > > The Person Forme... 441...@gmail.com 13 Jan 12 * > > [...] > > * The Person Formally Known As 441344 > This was a mistake, acknowledged by me immediately after the message

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3165 assigned to scshunt

2012-02-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:21, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Evidence > > [Registrar's Report 1-Feb-2012 extract] > > The Person Forme... 441...@gmail.com               13 Jan 12 * > > [...] > > * The Person Formally Known As

DIS: Re: BUS: Here goes nothing

2012-02-16 Thread omd
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Gratuitous:  The first method being limited to the announcer is an > inherent part of it, and similarly without-objection is an inherent > part of the second.  Past exceptions to this common-sense approach > have depended on alternate constructi

DIS: Re: BUS: The Village, take two

2012-02-16 Thread omd
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > I create a Slave Golem named Number Two. > > I announce that I will never cause Number Two to deregister. > > I cause Number Two to announce that e wants to deregister. I announce that I want to deregister. ...But my R101 rights haven't been v

DIS: Re: BUS: by the way, this is another bug

2012-02-16 Thread Elliott Hird
Changing someone's name to " I cause " doesn't deregister yourself.