Re: DIS: Pluralism

2013-04-02 Thread Wes Contreras
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > Have you ever played play-by-post mafia? Nope, though we've participated in live werewolf games that would appear to be essentially identical. --Wes

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread Wes Contreras
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:20 PM, wrote: > > E just submitted a proposal, which is one such action; there are others. It would be trivial to enable Golems to submit Proposals. It is somewhat less trivial to penetrate the vague hand-waving of "there are others" to identify what other actions, if a

Re: DIS: Pluralism

2013-04-02 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Wes Contreras wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > > > I must say, I'm somewhat alarmed by the recent flood of using "we" to > mean > > "I." It's a good thing we're in a Gerontocracy. > > We've been doing that in Nomic-related post

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread comexk
E just submitted a proposal, which is one such action; there are others. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Wes Contreras wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> >> Also, because of Bucky, our resident participating non-player. Giving >> him control of seco

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > These acronyms are all in the rules. VC stands for voting credit. VVLOP > > > doesn't officially stand for anything. > > > > VVLOP is defined in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread woggle
On 4/2/13 13:40 , Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >>> These acronyms are all in the rules. VC stands for voting credit. VVLOP >>> doesn't officially stand for anything. >> >> VVLOP is defined in Rules 2389

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > These acronyms are all in the rules. VC stands for voting credit. VVLOP > > doesn't officially stand for anything. > > VVLOP is defined in Rules 2389-2390. Well, yeah. However, what does VVLOP *mea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > These acronyms are all in the rules. VC stands for voting credit. VVLOP > doesn't officially stand for anything. VVLOP is defined in Rules 2389-2390.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread Max Schutz
thanks aaron and in response to the first part of that it doesn't do me justice with this visual impairement of mine On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > I create the fol

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I create the following promise, GVC: > > > > Text: > > I spend 1 VC to increase Machiavelli's VVLOP by one. > > [eight times] > > If I cash this, my VVLOP will go all the way up to 12 and so >

Re: DIS: Pluralism

2013-04-02 Thread Wes Contreras
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > I must say, I'm somewhat alarmed by the recent flood of using "we" to mean > "I." It's a good thing we're in a Gerontocracy. We've been doing that in Nomic-related posts for over a decade now. :) --Wes

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread Wes Contreras
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > Also, because of Bucky, our resident participating non-player. Giving > him control of second-class players is one of the main means via which > he participates. As far as we can tell, there are currently no actions e can take via second-clas

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 12:52 -0700, Wes Contreras wrote: > Can anyone explain why Second-Class Players exist? Because they > significantly complicate the Rules without any apparent benefit. > > It occurred to us that perhaps we should ask before drafting Proposals > to remove them. Basically they'

DIS: Pluralism

2013-04-02 Thread Aaron Goldfein
I must say, I'm somewhat alarmed by the recent flood of using "we" to mean "I." It's a good thing we're in a Gerontocracy.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread Aaron Goldfein
These acronyms are all in the rules. VC stands for voting credit. VVLOP doesn't officially stand for anything. On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Max Schutz wrote: > can you clarify those acronyms for me > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread Max Schutz
can you clarify those acronyms for me On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > I create the following promise, GVC: > > > > Text: > > I spend 1 VC to increase Machiavelli's VVLOP by one. > > [eight times] > > If I cash

DIS: Re: BUS: Liquid!

2013-04-02 Thread Tanner Swett
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I create the following promise, GVC: > > Text: > I spend 1 VC to increase Machiavelli's VVLOP by one. > [eight times] If I cash this, my VVLOP will go all the way up to 12 and so everyone's VVLOP will be reset to 4. —Machiavelli

DIS: Re: BUS: Fwd: Agora

2013-04-02 Thread Tanner Swett
Hi Joe, The current ruleset is at https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/current_flr.txt. Trading cards are defined in Rule 2385. Also, are you a player? Most of the game mechanics require a person to register before participating. —Machiavelli