Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Competition

2014-10-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> It was TtDF. > > There is nothing saying you can't withdraw an intent to a DF. There is very little reason to believe you can. Or in any other forum, as your arguments mention, but especially discussion fora... Are you trying to get away with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Competition

2014-10-20 Thread Sean Hunt
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:39 PM, omd wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: >> I CFJ: {{omd withdrew an intent in the quoted message.}} >> >> Arguments: The rules do not specify a mechanism for withdrawing intents. > > It was TtDF. There is nothing saying you can't withdra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Competition

2014-10-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I CFJ: {{omd withdrew an intent in the quoted message.}} > > Arguments: The rules do not specify a mechanism for withdrawing intents. It was TtDF. Incidentally, I don't think the rule actually works. It refers to "highest voting strength among

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal Competition

2014-10-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:32 PM, omd wrote: > I think we need more gameplay. Although the points won through a > Proposal Competition are rather useless at the moment, still - > > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to initiate a Proposal Competition. > The objective shall be to create at least one ne

Re: DIS: Brief count

2014-10-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > They said it was tactical. The only vote that makes tactical sense is > for them to vote against yours working, and for theirs working, that > implicitly recognizes the 4-days argument (that's the only outcome on > the table that leads to that

Re: DIS: Brief count

2014-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Eritivus wrote: > Note: I do intend to submit a(n expanded) Brief, by 07:00 UTC Tuesday > (midnight tonight PDT), perhaps earlier. I did some related grunt work > last night (collecting and reviewing all relevant contemporary messages, > and more mostly -- but not totally --

Re: DIS: Brief count

2014-10-20 Thread Eritivus
Note: I do intend to submit a(n expanded) Brief, by 07:00 UTC Tuesday (midnight tonight PDT), perhaps earlier. I did some related grunt work last night (collecting and reviewing all relevant contemporary messages, and more mostly -- but not totally -- fruitless CFJ searching). I 'just' need to poli

Re: DIS: Brief count

2014-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, omd wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, omd wrote: > >> ais523: FALSE (tactical, but assumes process works after 4 days). > >> Sprocklem : FALSE (tactical, but assumes process works after 4 days). > > Also, I don't think either of these briefs implies anythi

Re: DIS: Brief count

2014-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, omd wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > G.: FALSE (process of review is broken). > > Eritivus : "FALSE" (rule in question doesn't allow rule changes). > > ais523: FALSE (tactical, but assumes process works after 4 days). > > S

Re: DIS: Brief count

2014-10-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, omd wrote: >> ais523: FALSE (tactical, but assumes process works after 4 days). >> Sprocklem : FALSE (tactical, but assumes process works after 4 days). Also, I don't think either of these briefs implies anything about things working, as opposed to gener

Re: DIS: Brief count

2014-10-20 Thread omd
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > G.: FALSE (process of review is broken). > Eritivus : "FALSE" (rule in question doesn't allow rule changes). > ais523: FALSE (tactical, but assumes process works after 4 days). > Sprocklem : FALSE (tactical, but assumes p

DIS: Brief count

2014-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
Briefs right now I have: G.: FALSE (process of review is broken). Eritivus : "FALSE" (rule in question doesn't allow rule changes). ais523: FALSE (tactical, but assumes process works after 4 days). Sprocklem : FALSE (tactical, but assumes process works after 4 days). omd

DIS: Re: BUS: A little briefer than hoped

2014-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Alex Smith wrote: > You know what? I'm actually really concerned with the current Moot > process. By making things into a vote, not a discussion, it's pretty bad > at actually finding the truth. There *is* no "truth" here. Just several reasonable player definitions of what

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A little briefer than hoped

2014-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 06:45 +, Eritivus wrote: > > Note: I have not submitted a Brief yet, because I was deregistered when > > I attempted to do so. > > > > I'm pondering whether to resubmit as is, expand, or abandon. > > From my point of view, opini

DIS: Re: BUS: A little briefer than hoped

2014-10-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, omd wrote: > The second is a little more concerning. The judgement of FALSE will, > as things currently stand, be a composite of the following two > opinions: Assuming FALSE holds, but the Moot opinions aren't clear on which type of FALSE, it will be settled by followup CF