Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread Aris Merchant
I agree. The fact that a feature exists is not per se a reason to use it. Gaelan, what advantages do you see in your revised implementation? -Aris On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 7:31 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > > Switches? Please no. Switches are multi-purpose, but they are not > all-purpose. I would not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Quick proposals

2018-11-02 Thread Reuben Staley
Invariably, I have made a mistake in the following proposal. So I'm asking for contributions before submitting it. - Title: Reinstituting Rewards AI: 1 Author: Trigon Coauthors: [ COMMENT: For those of you who know that I really liked the rewards system from last year, this shouldn't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread Reuben Staley
Switches? Please no. Switches are multi-purpose, but they are not all-purpose. I would not vote FOR this proposal. The way we currently define it already works well enough. On 11/02/2018 06:07 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: Huh. A proto: DEPENDENT ACTIONS A dependent action is an action that a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: - With N Agoran Consent, where N is an integer multiple of 0.1 with a minimum of 1. ("With Consent" is shorthand for this method with N = 1.) "With Agoran Consent". Consent has other meanings so not good to leave it out. OPINIONS ON DEPENDENT

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread Gaelan Steele
Huh. A proto: DEPENDENT ACTIONS A dependent action is an action that a rule states can be performed by one of the following methods: - Without N Objections, where N is a positive integer. ("Without Objection" is shorthand for this method with N = 1.) [removed the cap of 8—there’s no reason

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
I think it's just long, long history combined with "it generally works, has gone through a lot of CFJs, and messing with Objections is dangerous" so no one's dared/bothered with a big refactor. That's not bad or good, just no one has tackled it since - I just checked - 1999, when it first came

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread Gaelan Steele
Is there a reason the dependent action rules are so weird? Seems like they need a refactor to use more “normal” mechanisms. Gaelan > On Nov 2, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > [The easy one first] > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, D. Margaux wrote: >> I CFJ barring twg: “If in the last

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
I started to get into this, but deleted it because it seemed like too much of an aside. My feeling is that No faking regulates the "posting of ineffective actions with intent to mislead". So "sending the message 'I object' in a context that I know will fail in a misleading way" is a regulated

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs 3679 and 3680 - judgements

2018-11-02 Thread D. Margaux
Re CFJ 3680— I don’t disagree with the conclusion. I think you’re right that the plain language meanings could go either way, and I have no problem with the plain language being interpreted in the parliamentary sense so that only one objection counts as an objection. The rest of the

DIS: HTML ruleset viewer

2018-11-02 Thread Gaelan Steele
I just put together a new web-based ruleset viewer. Currently it’s just the SLR (plus a table of contents and keyword links), but I’ll try to add the FLR information soon. It’s also fairly slow right now—working on that. The data is from the Rulekeepor’s YAML files, so it should stay up to

DIS: Proto judgement in CFJs 3681 and 3682

2018-11-02 Thread D. Margaux
> On Nov 2, 2018, at 8:41 AM, D. Margaux wrote: > > >> On Nov 2, 2018, at 1:58 AM, Aris Merchant >> wrote: >> >> I CFJ "Performing an action with N support is a dependent action". > > This is CFJ 3681. > >> I CFJ "Performing an action on behalf is always a dependent action". >> These