Re: DIS: ratifying honour etc.

2020-01-10 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/10/2020 7:30 PM, Falsifian wrote: On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 20:25, Alexis wrote: (and possibly codifying an approach to "is history part of the game state"). Aris tried to do this in June with eir "Timeline Control Ordnance" [0] which became Proposal 8195. I don't remember exactly why we

Re: DIS: ratifying honour etc.

2020-01-10 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/10/2020 6:53 PM, Falsifian wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 23:12, G. wrote: >> We've had a couple conversations along similar lines in the last year >> or two and people were generally positive. Specifically two ideas >> came up: (1) making each officer the "primary judge" on disputes >>

Re: DIS: Re: Modules and dependencies

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 04:04, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > I recall you mentioning that you would like a > system where judges could search topic-relevant rules and a few core > rules instead of potentially anywhere in the ruleset. Oh right, yes, that would be nice. I'm confused

DIS: Re: BUS: [Registrar] New zombies

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 07:50, David Seeber wrote: > Oh dear. I seem to be a zombie again > > BVV > > David Seeber Not quite. You just avoided it with that message. - Falsifian

Re: DIS: [draft] procedural ratification

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 16:23, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Ørjan wrote: > > Winning and patent titles can still be lost as a side effect of ratifying > > a document published before they happen, when that removes a prerequisite > > for their award. > > Oh of course oops - not sure if

Re: DIS: Contract Patency v3

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 01:24, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Amend rule 2450, "Pledges", by adding at the end of the first paragraph > "A pledge ceases to exist at the end of its time window." Do we still need pledges? I think a one-party contract with a provision that the party

DIS: Re: Modules and dependencies

2020-01-10 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/10/20 9:48 PM, James Cook wrote: > Is this intended to be along the same lines as Trigon's "Interesting > Chambers" proto from September? (Subject lines: "Proto for a new > voting/chamber system" and "Interesting Chambers v2".) > > Your proposal is interesting. How did you imagine these being

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 03:32, James Cook wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 04:34, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > A draft report follows. > > > > -Aris > > --- > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran > > Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it

Re: DIS: ratifying honour etc.

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 20:25, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > (and > possibly codifying an approach to "is history part of the game state"). Aris tried to do this in June with eir "Timeline Control Ordnance" [0] which became Proposal 8195. I don't remember exactly why we voted it down,

Re: DIS: [Draft] Administrative Adjudication v2

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 02:41, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Title: Administrative Adjudication v2 > Adoption index: 3.0 AI can be 2.0 now. This sounds fun. There could be interesting struggles between officers. E.g. I could imagine the Treasuror and ADoP arguing over who gets to

Re: DIS: ratifying honour etc.

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 19:36, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > This would also > have the feature of making an officer's memoranda an election issue. It would be fun to have something for candidates to debate. I suppose Aris's v2 proto entails this, since it would allow a new officer to

Re: DIS: ratifying honour etc.

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 23:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > We've had a couple conversations along similar lines in the last year > or two and people were generally positive. Specifically two ideas > came up: (1) making each officer the "primary judge" on disputes > about their

DIS: Modules and dependencies (was: ratifying honour etc.)

2020-01-10 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 02:37, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/7/20 6:10 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > (2) dividing the ruleset itself so that rule categories > > are more binding, and rules precedence works as "category then power" > > (e.g. any rule in the