Re: DIS: Numbers and dependent actions

2020-02-14 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Falsifian wrote: "Without objection" and "without objections" both sound okay to me. I prefer the first, but I don't know why. Maybe I'm just used to it. The second makes it sound like there need to be objection/s/, plural, to block the relevant action.

Re: DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

2020-02-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:16 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:09 PM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > omd wrote: > > > Yep, but speaking as the Distributor, I think it would be nice to have > > > better

Re: DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

2020-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 3:09 PM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > > omd wrote: > > Yep, but speaking as the Distributor, I think it would be nice to have > > better documentation. (Not necessarily volunteering to write it > > though. ;)) > > Yes, we seem to periodically come up with

Re: DIS: Fwd: failure notice (attn. Distributor)

2020-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 2:53 PM omd wrote: > Although I'm curious about the root cause of the "broken pipe" error, Observation - my message that got me a bounce was this one: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2020-January/056423.html So mine had a forward of

Re: DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

2020-02-14 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
omd wrote: > Yep, but speaking as the Distributor, I think it would be nice to have > better documentation. (Not necessarily volunteering to write it > though. ;)) Yes, we seem to periodically come up with lists of non-obvious Agoran nuances that it would be good to put in a FAQ on the website, a

Re: DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

2020-02-14 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:28 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 12:18, sukil via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Yup, makes sense. Thanks! I believe this could be documented somewhere > > just in case (maybe I missed it?). > > The mailing lists have historically bee

Re: DIS: Fwd: failure notice (attn. Distributor)

2020-02-14 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:51 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > H. Distributor, or anyone else really, do you know what to make of > this? The original message went to the list and shows in the archive. Huh. TL;DR: You can safely ignore the bounce; sorry for the spam; it shouldn't ha

Re: DIS: Numbers and dependent actions

2020-02-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:45 PM sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > > > El 14/02/2020 a las 18:06, James Cook escribió: > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 13:06, sukil via agora-discussion > > wrote: > >> El 13/02/2020 a las 13:24, AIS523--- via agora-discussion escribió: > >>> On Thu, 2020-02-13 at 12:

Re: DIS: Numbers and dependent actions

2020-02-14 Thread sukil via agora-discussion
El 14/02/2020 a las 18:06, James Cook escribió: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 13:06, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: El 13/02/2020 a las 13:24, AIS523--- via agora-discussion escribió: On Thu, 2020-02-13 at 12:40 +0100, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: Hi, I was reading the rules before regist

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

2020-02-14 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
Oh, my bad—your reply put the thread on top of my inbox and I assumed both messages were recent. Gaelan > On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business > wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:02 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion > wrote: >> >> CoE: I judged this one at >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

2020-02-14 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
CoE: I judged this one at https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg35645.html . I’m forwarding this to G., because I haven’t received replies to several of my recent messages and I’m worried they’re e

Re: DIS: test

2020-02-14 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/14/20 2:26 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > On 2/14/20 2:25 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> Getting some failure notices for a certain message, I want to see if >> it's only for that message. >> >> -- Jason Cobb > > Looks like it is, since I got this back (w/o failure notice). > Oh, just

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Re-renumbered Index: Proposals 8322-8341

2020-02-14 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/14/20 2:12 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote: >> 8323* Jason3.0 Secure Ribbons > Conditional: AGAINST if Jason votes AGAINST; otherwise PRESENT. > Undeniably a good idea, but I can't quite bring myself to give up on > such a juicy scam target. > [Apologies

Re: DIS: test

2020-02-14 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/14/20 2:25 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Getting some failure notices for a certain message, I want to see if > it's only for that message. > > -- Jason Cobb Looks like it is, since I got this back (w/o failure notice). -- Jason Cobb

DIS: test

2020-02-14 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
Getting some failure notices for a certain message, I want to see if it's only for that message. -- Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Forbes 500

2020-02-14 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
So it is, thank you - I marked all the zombie auction stuff as "uncertain, revisit later" and never did. Revision forthcoming. -twg ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, February 14, 2020 7:18 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > Also missing my transfer from o: > https://mailman

Re: DIS: [draft] [Registrar] End of February zombie auction, if it exists

2020-02-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > *Cuddle Beam's Master switch was flipped during auction. According to > the last paragraph of Rule 1885, the winner of Cuddle Beam NEED NOT > pair eir bid and will not receive Cuddle Beam. If the bid isn't paired with anoth

Re: [another CFJ] Re: [Proposal] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] [attn Rulekeepor] Re: BUS: [attn: Tailor] Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8308-8321

2020-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote: > > Amend Rule 591, "Delivering Judgement", by replacing each occurrence of > > "DISMISS" with "¯\(ツ)/¯". Arbitor/CotC comment: please no > CFJ: "Today, I submitted a proposal entitled 'Judicial Jocularity Act'". > >

DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
As I pointed out in response to Murphy's "Fix Auctions" proposal, I don't think it works, because master is secured at power 2. How about this one? Title: Auction promotion AI: 2 Chamber: Economy [Comment: It's awkward to have a power-2 rule (Zombie Auctions) defer to the power-1 auction rules

Re: [another CFJ] Re: [Proposal] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] [attn Rulekeepor] Re: BUS: [attn: Tailor] Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8308-8321

2020-02-14 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote: > > I wrote: > > I submit the following proposal: > > > > Title: 𝒥𝓊𝒹𝒾𝒸𝒾𝒶𝓁 𝒥𝑜𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝒜𝒸𝓉 > > Adoption index: 1.7 > > Chamber: Justice > > Author: twg > > Co-authors: > > > > Amend Rule 591, "Delivering Judgement", by repl

DIS: [draft] [Registrar] End of February zombie auction, if it exists

2020-02-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
This is a little complicated, and I've messed up much simpler auctions before, so sending out a draft first. If anyone spots an error or can reduce one of the uncertainties, please let me know. Draft: == Due to at least two uncertainties, we may be in at least three possible states, covered b

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] [attn Rulekeepor] Re: BUS: [attn: Tailor] Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8308-8321

2020-02-14 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/14/20 12:59 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote: > *sigh* > > CFJ, barring Falsifian: "Falsifian was awarded a Red Ribbon today." > > Arguments: > > Rule 2438 says: > > Red (R): When a proposal is adopted and changes at least one rule > that, immediately before or after

DIS: [Reporter] Last Week in Agora

2020-02-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
Archived at https://github.com/AgoraNomic/Reporter/tree/master/weekly_summaries Report for the week of 2020-02-03..09: # Summary Another week, another victory: Falsifian pays 1,000 Coins to win the game. No big deal: G. already did it recently, and two other players own at least 1,000 Coins. Fa

Re: DIS: [proto] Retroactive Events: a refactor of ratification

2020-02-14 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 11:17, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in > the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification > failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is a more > radical change

Re: DIS: [Proto-Proposals] The beginnings of reform

2020-02-14 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 20:32, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > This proto marks the beginning of my quests for reform in two large > areas of the game, administrative discretion and ratification, as > discussed previously. I may choose to write up a plan at some point > and submit it as a

Re: DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

2020-02-14 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 12:18, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > Yup, makes sense. Thanks! I believe this could be documented somewhere > just in case (maybe I missed it?). The mailing lists have historically been largely outside the game's rules and managed informally. List etiquette, shorthand

Re: DIS: Fwd: failure notice (attn. Distributor)

2020-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 2/14/2020 8:50 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > H. Distributor, or anyone else really, do you know what to make of > this? The original message went to the list and shows in the archive. > > -Aris I got a similar failure notice on Feb 4 for a message I sent to DIS on Jan 28. (

Re: DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

2020-02-14 Thread sukil via agora-discussion
El 14/02/2020 a las 18:08, AIS523--- via agora-discussion escribió: On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 18:02 +0100, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: Hi, For some reason, any agora-* conversation (tested with my register message, a random one coming from agora-official and another one coming from this lis

Re: DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

2020-02-14 Thread AIS523--- via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 18:02 +0100, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > Hi, > > For some reason, any agora-* conversation (tested with my register > message, a random one coming from agora-official and another one coming > from this list) includes a reply-to header which points to this list, > a

Re: DIS: Numbers and dependent actions

2020-02-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 13:06, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > El 13/02/2020 a las 13:24, AIS523--- via agora-discussion escribió: > > On Thu, 2020-02-13 at 12:40 +0100, sukil via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I was reading the rules before registering and came across something > >

DIS: reply-to headers always pointing to this list

2020-02-14 Thread sukil via agora-discussion
Hi, For some reason, any agora-* conversation (tested with my register message, a random one coming from agora-official and another one coming from this list) includes a reply-to header which points to this list, and excludes any other agora-* list. This means that I should always "reply to l

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Re-renumbered Index: Proposals 8322-8341

2020-02-14 Thread sukil via agora-discussion
Woops, that should be interpreted as present, yes. Fixing by sending that to public forum, thanks. El 14/02/2020 a las 16:30, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion escribió: On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 07:31, sukil via agora-business wrote: 8323* Jason3.0 Secure Ribbons Did yo

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Re-renumbered Index: Proposals 8322-8341

2020-02-14 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 07:31, sukil via agora-business wrote: > > 8323* Jason3.0 Secure Ribbons Did you intend to leave this one without a vote?