Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-27 Thread Fool
On 27/06/2013 5:24 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 27 June 2013 23:23, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: On 26 June 2013 05:33, Malcolm Ryan wrote: Let's make this interesting. I propose that a rule be enacted reading: "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its voting pe

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 27 June 2013 23:23, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > On 26 June 2013 05:33, Malcolm Ryan wrote: >> >> Let's make this interesting. >> >> I propose that a rule be enacted reading: >> >> "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its >> voting period, that player must immedia

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-27 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 26 June 2013 05:33, Malcolm Ryan wrote: > > Let's make this interesting. > > I propose that a rule be enacted reading: > > "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its > voting period, that player must immediately forfeit the game." > > M I register Agora XX, pre

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Fool wrote: > On 26/06/2013 12:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > 344 I'll defer to speaker's opinion on ongoing-ness in future. > > > > -Goethe > > > > :VETO: Ok, I vote against 344. -Goethe

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Fool wrote: > On 26/06/2013 12:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> I vote for 345-347 (think I already voted on 345) >> >> 344 I'll defer to speaker's opinion on ongoing-ness in future. >> >> -Goethe >> > > :VETO: Presumably, we could change the speaker. After a

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Fool
On 26/06/2013 12:09 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: I vote for 345-347 (think I already voted on 345) 344 I'll defer to speaker's opinion on ongoing-ness in future. -Goethe :VETO:

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Fool wrote: > > [Missed one...] > > Here I'll just number and repeat the four new proposals that were made. > You can vote by replying to this message, privately if you like. > I'll send out a full report shortly. > > -Dan > > 344 (Yally): >> >> Amend Rule 326 to r

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-346

2013-06-26 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I used the word "forfeit" because it is already used in rule 113. Blob On 26/06/2013, at 11:20 PM, Michael Norrish wrote: > I vote AGAINST 345 and 346 (what does forfeit mean, and does it prevent > reregistration?) > > I vote FOR 344. > > Michael > > > On 26/06/13 10:00 PM, Fool wrote: >> He

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-26 Thread Flameshadowxeroshin
For. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Michael Norrish wrote: > I vote FOR this proposal. > > Michael > > On 26/06/13 6:20 PM, Chuck Carroll wrote: >> I propose that Rule 302, or a Rule formerly having had the number 302 >> (if there is exactly one such rule) be amended to read “Players whose >> p

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-26 Thread Flameshadowxeroshin
Against. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:43 AM, omd wrote: > > > On Wednesday, June 26, 2013, Malcolm Ryan wrote: >> >> Let's make this interesting. >> >> I propose that a rule be enacted reading: >> >> "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its >> voting period, that pl

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
I also vote for each of 342-343. On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > I vote for 345-347 (think I already voted on 345) > > 344 I'll defer to speaker's opinion on ongoing-ness in future. > > -Goethe > >

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
I vote for 345-347 (think I already voted on 345) 344 I'll defer to speaker's opinion on ongoing-ness in future. -Goethe

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-346

2013-06-26 Thread Michael Norrish
I vote AGAINST 345 and 346 (what does forfeit mean, and does it prevent reregistration?) I vote FOR 344. Michael On 26/06/13 10:00 PM, Fool wrote: > Here I'll just number and repeat the three new proposals that were made. > You can vote by replying to this message, privately if you like. > I'll

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Steven Gardner
For all of these. -- Steve Gardner via mobile On 26 Jun 2013 22:03, "Fool" wrote: > > [Missed one...] > > Here I'll just number and repeat the four new proposals that were made. > You can vote by replying to this message, privately if you like. > I'll send out a full report shortly. > > -Dan > >

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 June 2013 13:03, Fool wrote: > > [Missed one...] > > Here I'll just number and repeat the four new proposals that were made. > You can vote by replying to this message, privately if you like. > I'll send out a full report shortly. > > -Dan > > 344 (Yally): >> >> Amend Rule 326 to read: >> >>

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-347

2013-06-26 Thread Fool
[Missed one...] Here I'll just number and repeat the four new proposals that were made. You can vote by replying to this message, privately if you like. I'll send out a full report shortly. -Dan 344 (Yally): Amend Rule 326 to read: Each year on June 30th at 00:04:30 UTC +1200 , the game shal

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 344-346

2013-06-26 Thread Fool
Here I'll just number and repeat the three new proposals that were made. You can vote by replying to this message, privately if you like. I'll send out a full report shortly. -Dan 344 (Yally): Amend Rule 326 to read: Each year on June 30th at 00:04:30 UTC +1200 , the game shall end, and the V

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-26 Thread omd
On Wednesday, June 26, 2013, Malcolm Ryan wrote: > Let's make this interesting. > > I propose that a rule be enacted reading: > > "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its > voting period, that player must immediately forfeit the game." > For.

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-26 Thread Michael Norrish
I vote FOR this proposal. Michael On 26/06/13 6:20 PM, Chuck Carroll wrote: > I propose that Rule 302, or a Rule formerly having had the number 302 > (if there is exactly one such rule) be amended to read “Players whose > proposals are adopted shall receive 10 points.” > > > > Chuck > > >

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-26 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I vote FOR. M On 25/06/2013, at 12:11 AM, Steven Gardner wrote: > I vote for this Proposal. > > On 25 June 2013 00:10, Steven Gardner wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Enact a new Rule which reads: > > Within 24 hours of this Rule being enacted, the Speaker shall publish the >

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-26 Thread Steven Gardner
I vote for this proposal. -- Steve Gardner via mobile On 26 Jun 2013 18:21, "Chuck Carroll" wrote: > I propose that Rule 302, or a Rule formerly having had the number 302 (if > there is exactly one such rule) be amended to read “Players whose proposals > are adopted shall receive 10 points.”

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-26 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose that Rule 302, or a Rule formerly having had the number 302 (if there is exactly one such rule) be amended to read "Players whose proposals are adopted shall receive 10 points." Chuck

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
Also FOR. -Goethe On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Sean Hunt wrote: > FOR > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Malcolm Ryan > wrote: > > Let's make this interesting. > > > > I propose that a rule be enacted reading: > > > > "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its > >

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Sean Hunt
FOR On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Malcolm Ryan wrote: > Let's make this interesting. > > I propose that a rule be enacted reading: > > "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its > voting period, that player must immediately forfeit the game." > > M

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
You youngsters got no guts. In my day we played fer KEEPS. M On 26/06/2013, at 1:37 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Malcolm Ryan > wrote: >> Let's make this interesting. >> >> I propose that a rule be enacted reading: >> >> "If a player proposes a rule change wh

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Naturally, I vote FOR this. On 26/06/2013, at 1:33 PM, Malcolm Ryan wrote: > Let's make this interesting. > > I propose that a rule be enacted reading: > > "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its > voting period, that player must immediately forfeit the game.

Re: DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Malcolm Ryan wrote: > Let's make this interesting. > > I propose that a rule be enacted reading: > > "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its > voting period, that player must immediately forfeit the game." > > M Too interesting

DIS: Agora XX: proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
Let's make this interesting. I propose that a rule be enacted reading: "If a player proposes a rule change which is not adopted at the end of its voting period, that player must immediately forfeit the game." M

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Malcolm Ryan
I disagree. There is no such thing as a "proposal" only a "proposed rule change". I put it that this is a shorthand way of making 38 proposed rule changes. Malcolm On 23/06/2013, at 12:17 AM, Fool wrote: > On 22/06/2013 9:45 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: >> I propose that all rules be transmuted to

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Flameshadowxeroshin
FSX is my name for Agora XX. Flameshadowxeroshin is too cumbersome for most purposes, so I don't use it very much. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Steven Gardner wrote: > Either 'Flameshadowxeroshin' or 'FSX' will serve as a name, IMO. > > -- > Steve Gardner > via mobile > > On 25 Jun 2013 22:04

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose that Rule 311, or a rule formerly having had the number 311 (if there is exactly one such rule) be amended by changing the text defining the time of the end of the game (such as, but not limited to, "On June 30th, 2013, at 00:04:30 GMT +1200, the game shall end") to "The game shall end im

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Steven Gardner
Either 'Flameshadowxeroshin' or 'FSX' will serve as a name, IMO. -- Steve Gardner via mobile On 25 Jun 2013 22:04, "Fool" wrote: > Hi FSX, > Well, since you're voting for, would it be fair to ask for your name? > > -Dan > > On 25/06/2013 1:24 AM, Flameshadowxeroshin wrote: > >> I vote for this

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Fool
Hi FSX, Well, since you're voting for, would it be fair to ask for your name? -Dan On 25/06/2013 1:24 AM, Flameshadowxeroshin wrote: I vote for this proposal. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Steven Gardner wrote: I vote for this Proposal. On 25 June 2013 00:10, Steven Gardner wrote:

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-25 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose that rule 311 be amended by changing the text which reads "the Voter with the most points shall win. In case of a tie, all such Voters shall win simultaneously." to "all Voters having a score greater than the median score among Voters shall win." Chuck

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-24 Thread Flameshadowxeroshin
I vote for this proposal. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Steven Gardner wrote: > I vote for this Proposal. > > > On 25 June 2013 00:10, Steven Gardner wrote: >> >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> Enact a new Rule which reads: >> >> Within 24 hours of this Rule being enacted, the Speaker

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 330

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Norrish
I vote AGAINST 330. Michael On 24/06/13 22:09, Fool wrote: > Here I just number and repeat the one new proposal. Report shortly. > -Dan > > 330 (Walker): >> I propose to amend Rule 324 by deleting the first sentence. > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-24 Thread Steven Gardner
I vote for this Proposal. On 25 June 2013 00:10, Steven Gardner wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Enact a new Rule which reads: > > Within 24 hours of this Rule being enacted, the Speaker shall publish the > names and email addresses of all registered players of Agora XX. > > Steve >

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-24 Thread Steven Gardner
I submit the following proposal: Enact a new Rule which reads: Within 24 hours of this Rule being enacted, the Speaker shall publish the names and email addresses of all registered players of Agora XX. Steve -- Steve Gardner Research Grants Development Faculty of Business and Economics Monash

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 330

2013-06-24 Thread Fool
Here I just number and repeat the one new proposal. Report shortly. -Dan 330 (Walker): I propose to amend Rule 324 by deleting the first sentence.

DIS: Agora XX: proposal 324 passes, 325 fails.

2013-06-23 Thread Fool
Voting for 324 and 325 closed around 14:30 UTC. 324 (Chuck) passed 4:0 (Walker,Chuck,scshunt,Roujo). It transmutes 110. Chuck +10 points by 302. 325 (Chuck) fails 2:2 (Chuck,Roujo vs scshunt,Walker). Full report around 11:00 UTC as usual. -Dan

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-23 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose that rule 311 be amended by deleting the text "There is no other way to win." Chuck

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-22 Thread Fool
On 22/06/2013 10:01 AM, Chuck Carroll wrote: I propose the following rule be created: If at any time four or more Voters have identical non-zero scores, the Speaker wins the game. Chuck This has an interesting interaction with 306... you (among others) could make me win by announcement. (

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-22 Thread Fool
On 22/06/2013 9:45 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: I propose that all rules be transmuted to mutable. One transmutation per proposal at the moment. -Dan

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-22 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose the following rule be created: If at any time four or more Voters have identical non-zero scores, the Speaker wins the game. Chuck

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-22 Thread Elliott Hird
I propose that all rules be transmuted to mutable.

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-22 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose that rule 110 be transmuted to mutable. Chuck

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 305 passes

2013-06-20 Thread Fool
Voting is closed on this. It passes 2:1 (Chuck,Yally vs Walker). This enacts rule 305. Chuck +10 and Walker +2 by rule 302. Full report in about 10 hours. Voting on 306-309 is still open. Vote early, vote often! -Dan 305 (Chuck): I propose that the following rule be created: No rule may

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-20 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose that Rule 110 be transmuted to mutable. omd, I will vote for the transmutation of 112 if you will vote for the transmutation of 110. Chuck -Original Message- From: agora-discussion [mailto:agora-discussion-boun...@agoranomic.org] On Behalf Of omd Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 201

RE: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 305

2013-06-20 Thread Chuck Carroll
omd made two proposals in a message sent at 10:00 p.m. EDT on June 19. Chuck From: agora-discussion [mailto:agora-discussion-boun...@agoranomic.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Goldfein Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:58 AM To: Fool; Agora Nomic discussions (DF) Subject: Re: DIS: Agora XX

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 305

2013-06-19 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Fool wrote: > Hello all, > > Here I'll only number and repeat the one proposal made that hasn't yet > been numbered. You can vote by just replying to this message, privately if > you like. > > Voting on this closes in 24h. > > -Dan > > 305 (Chuck): > >> I propose

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 305

2013-06-19 Thread omd
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Fool wrote: > 305 (Chuck): >> >> I propose that the following rule be created: >> >> No rule may award or penalize players based on their votes on proposals >> whose voting period ended before or at the same time as the time at which >> the current form of said rul

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal 305

2013-06-19 Thread Fool
Hello all, Here I'll only number and repeat the one proposal made that hasn't yet been numbered. You can vote by just replying to this message, privately if you like. Voting on this closes in 24h. -Dan 305 (Chuck): I propose that the following rule be created: No rule may award or penaliz

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-19 Thread games_na
I propose that the following rule be created: No rule may award or penalize players based on their votes on proposals whose voting period ended before or at the same time as the time at which the current form of said rule took effect. Chuck

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-18 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM, wrote: > I vote in favor of my own proposal. I propose that a rule be enacted to read: "Upon the enactment of this rule, each player who voted for it shall receive 30 points, and each player who voted against shall lose the 10 points they gained for voting agai

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-18 Thread Flameshadowxeroshin
I vote in favor. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, wrote: > I propose that Rule 110 be transmuted to mutable. > > Chuck > >

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-18 Thread games_na
I vote in favor of my own proposal. Chuck > I propose that Rule 211 be amended to read: > > > > "Voters who voted against proposals which are adopted receive 2 points > apiece. Players whose proposals are adopted shall receive a random number > of > points in the range 1-10 inclusive." > > > > C

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-18 Thread games_na
I propose that Rule 110 be transmuted to mutable. Chuck

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-18 Thread Flameshadowxeroshin
I vote in favor. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 18 Jun 2013, at 13:08, "Chuck Carroll" wrote: > > I propose that Rule 211 be amended to read: > > > > “Voters who voted against proposals which are adopted receive 2 points > apiece. Players whose proposals are adopted

Re: DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-18 Thread Charles Walker
On 18 Jun 2013, at 13:08, "Chuck Carroll" wrote: > I propose that Rule 211 be amended to read: > > “Voters who voted against proposals which are adopted receive 2 points > apiece. Players whose proposals are adopted shall receive a random number of > points in the range 1-10 inclusive.” > >

DIS: Agora XX: Proposal

2013-06-18 Thread Chuck Carroll
I propose that Rule 211 be amended to read: "Voters who voted against proposals which are adopted receive 2 points apiece. Players whose proposals are adopted shall receive a random number of points in the range 1-10 inclusive." Chuck