Re: DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

2020-01-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:28 PM Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > > >>> 1. e, acting as emself, has publicly stated, and not subsequently > >>> publicly withdrawn eir statement, that e agrees to the action; > >>

Re: DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

2020-01-08 Thread Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: 1. e, acting as emself, has publicly stated, and not subsequently publicly withdrawn eir statement, that e agrees to the action; That last comma looks out of place. Looks right to me, based on my intuitive comma placement

Re: DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

2020-01-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:16 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > > First of all, I haven’t looked through all of the original thread, so let me > know if something’s already been discussed to death. I’m aware that I’m > suggesting some big changes late in the game, and I’m not *that*

Re: DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

2020-01-08 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
First of all, I haven’t looked through all of the original thread, so let me know if something’s already been discussed to death. I’m aware that I’m suggesting some big changes late in the game, and I’m not *that* unhappy with the proposal as it stands, so I would probably vote FOR even as it

Re: DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

2020-01-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 2:42 PM AIS523--- via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-01-08 at 14:31 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > wrote: > > I think this addresses everyone's concerns. Comments are welcome. > [snip] > > Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", to read in full: > > A person is

Re: DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

2020-01-08 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/8/20 5:42 PM, AIS523--- via agora-discussion wrote: > I have an automatic uneasy reaction to anything that inherently needs > to be able to platonically evaluate arbitrary conditions that can be > specified without going through a proposal process or the like, > especially if there are no

Re: DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

2020-01-08 Thread AIS523--- via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2020-01-08 at 14:31 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > I think this addresses everyone's concerns. Comments are welcome. [snip] > Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", to read in full: > A person is deemed to have consented to an action if and only if: > > 1. e, acting as

DIS: [Draft] Contract Patency v2

2020-01-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
I think this addresses everyone's concerns. Comments are welcome. -Aris --- Title: Contract Patency v2 Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: Jason Cobb, Falsifian Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", to read in full: A person is deemed to have consented to an action if and only if: 1. e,

Re: DIS: Draft: Contract Patency

2020-01-08 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:35 PM James Cook wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 at 06:11, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Here's a draft that separates out contracts from pacts, and creates an > > office of Notary to track contracts and pledges. NOTE: Volunteers are > > needed for Notary! Apply now! > > I

Re: DIS: Draft: Contract Patency

2019-11-15 Thread James Cook
On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 02:35, James Cook wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 at 06:11, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > Here's a draft that separates out contracts from pacts, and creates an > > office of Notary to track contracts and pledges. NOTE: Volunteers are > > needed for Notary! Apply now! > > I

Re: DIS: Draft: Contract Patency

2019-11-15 Thread James Cook
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 at 06:11, Aris Merchant wrote: > Here's a draft that separates out contracts from pacts, and creates an > office of Notary to track contracts and pledges. NOTE: Volunteers are > needed for Notary! Apply now! I really like the idea of tracking pledges and contracts. A few

Re: DIS: Draft: Contract Patency

2019-11-15 Thread James Cook
> > Should this be "A pledge or pact is invisible"? Also, is it really > > possible for a pledge to be invisible, since a pledge must be made > > publicly per R2450? > > No, it shouldn’t. Pacts can be made privately, even under the new rules. It > would be irrational to subject old pacts to

Re: DIS: Draft: Contract Patency

2019-11-11 Thread Jason Cobb
On 11/11/19 2:38 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: Alright, a couple scams here. 1) Publish multiple documents, each with the header "this might be the text/parties list of a contract:"; that way there's still some degree of uncertainty. I hadn’t thought of that. Do you have any ideas about how to

Re: DIS: Draft: Contract Patency

2019-11-11 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 6:37 AM Jason Cobb wrote: > On 11/11/19 1:10 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > -- > > Title: Contract Patency > > Adoption index: 3.0 > > Author: Aris > > Co-authors: > > > > > > Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", to read in full: > >A person is deemed to have consented to an

Re: DIS: Draft: Contract Patency

2019-11-11 Thread Jason Cobb
On 11/11/19 1:10 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: -- Title: Contract Patency Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", to read in full: A person is deemed to have consented to an action if and only if: 1. e, acting as emself, has publicly stated, and not

DIS: Draft: Contract Patency

2019-11-10 Thread Aris Merchant
Here's a draft that separates out contracts from pacts, and creates an office of Notary to track contracts and pledges. NOTE: Volunteers are needed for Notary! Apply now! Changes: - Fiddles around a bit with the definition of consent, allowing consent by contract and without objection (if the