Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/4/6 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: For entering things, sure, but for being able to analyze purported errors and correct them if needed?  Not everyone has their own VCS. (git|darcs|hg) is hard, let's go shopping.

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:15 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: For entering things, sure, but for being able to analyze purported errors and correct them if needed? Not everyone has their own VCS. (git|darcs|hg) is hard, let's go shopping. During my

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:15 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: For entering things, sure, but for being able to analyze purported errors and correct them if needed? Not everyone has their own VCS. (git|darcs|hg) is hard, let's go shopping.

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/4/6 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: The main advantage I see with a wiki is that it's easy for anyone else to review the change history (I'm sure you could make this possible with $FAVORITE_VCS as well, but probably not as easy).  I agree that it doesn't make much difference to the

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: The main advantage I see with a wiki is that it's easy for anyone else to review the change history (I'm sure you could make this possible with $FAVORITE_VCS as well, but probably not as easy). Â I agree that it doesn't make much

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 20:41 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: A wiki is just a VCS with a GUI front-end. Discuss. Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: 2009/4/6 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: A wiki is just a VCS with a GUI front-end. Â Discuss. Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface that requires javascript and that has no

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface that requires javascript and that has no way to get non-HTML out of it;

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:54 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I doubt it.) operating on a bad document format with an awful interface that

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I doubt it.) Non-linear edits? Are you referring to branching/merging? -root

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 14:10 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Wikidot is just a bad VCS (does it even handle non-linear edits? I doubt it.) Non-linear edits? Are you referring to branching/merging? More to the

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: The data's all there, and we're left with no legal recourse to get it back again as Wikidot don't allow automated scraping; the Notary reports are manual scraping by copy/paste. So migrating back would be rather tricky and

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: The data's all there, and we're left with no legal recourse to get it back again as Wikidot don't allow automated scraping; the Notary reports are manual

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 14:27 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: The data's all there, and we're left with no legal recourse to get it back again as Wikidot don't allow automated scraping; the Notary reports are manual scraping by

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 14:27 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: The data's all there, and we're left with no legal recourse to get it back again as Wikidot don't allow automated scraping; the Notary reports are manual

DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-05 Thread Alexander Smith
root wrote: I tried to edit my own page on the Notary wiki a few weeks ago and was unable to. You have to ask Murphy for edit permissions to be able to edit the wiki. (The whole setup seems rather suboptimal to me, as I have to try to reflect everything that happens contract-wise on the wiki,

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-05 Thread Elliott Hird
On 2009-04-06, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: ais523 wrote: root wrote: I tried to edit my own page on the Notary wiki a few weeks ago and was unable to. You have to ask Murphy for edit permissions to be able to edit the wiki. (The whole setup seems rather suboptimal to me, as I

Re: DIS: RE: Re: OFF: [Notary] Weekly and Monthly Contract Reports

2009-04-05 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: (The whole setup seems rather suboptimal to me, as I have to try to reflect everything that happens contract-wise on the wiki, and would have to check anyway, as Notary, to ensure everything is up-to-date. Therefore, the wiki adds no real convenience to me, as people normally