Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-31 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Taral wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: No interpretation of Agoran law may limit the right of participation in the fora; therefore any interpretation of the law claiming that a forum G. could not reasonably access is a

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-30 Thread Taral
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: No interpretation of Agoran law may limit the right of participation in the fora; therefore any interpretation of the law claiming that a forum G. could not reasonably access is a public forum is INVALID. Do we really

DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
Yes. A message is public if sent via a public forum, whether or not that message reaches any player. I disagree, based on my memory of the precedent of what via means. Otherwise, indeed, it would be trivial as you say and uninteresting Forget the CFJ # but will go look now that I seem to be

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010, Kerim Aydin wrote: Yes. A message is public if sent via a public forum, whether or not that message reaches any player. I disagree, based on my memory of the precedent of what via means. Otherwise, indeed, it would be trivial as you say and uninteresting Forget the CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread Sean Hunt
On 03/29/2010 12:02 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Yes. A message is public if sent via a public forum, whether or not that message reaches any player. I disagree, based on my memory of the precedent of what via means. Otherwise, indeed, it would be trivial as you say and uninteresting Forget the

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread Sean Hunt
On 03/29/2010 12:08 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On another note, an actual Vote I sent bounced (got the bounce messages) just before a voting period ended last week. It was too late for me to re-send that, even to BAK. What's the consequences, there? -G. Consequences in what sense? -coppro

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: I agree with your extension of via; the message would have to go from a source, through the forum, to the destination. There is no requirement every player receive the message (as was abused to great effect when the Registrar made an IRC channel a

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say they were violated, but then reinstated in a reasonable time. However, since the rights were not violated by anything R101 claims jurisdiction over, you would be out of luck. Of course, you would be excused of not

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread ais523
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 23:32 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: I agree with your extension of via; the message would have to go from a source, through the forum, to the destination. There is no requirement every player receive the message (as was abused to

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, ais523 wrote: It's also worth noting that G. could have sent messages via backup fora and received them via looking at the online archives. I think that that effort is not unreasonable; however, the issue is that there was no information to let G. know that that's what he

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-29 Thread comex
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Yes. A message is public if sent via a public forum, whether or not that message reaches any player. I disagree, based on my memory of the precedent of what via means. Otherwise, indeed, it would be trivial as you say

DIS: Re: BAK: Mail warning

2010-03-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On 03/28/2010 11:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sat, 27 Mar 2010, Taral wrote: I didn't update the SPF records when the mail server moved. So... some people have been unsubscribed due to bounces. It's fixed, but will take a few hours to propagate. I am one of the persons to whom this happened.