DIS: Re: BUS: Attempted tortoise

2009-11-29 Thread comex
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > CFJ:  If the Chief Whip announced that 2 + 2 = 5, it would be legal > to publicly agree. The hypothetical agreement occurs after the initiation of the case, so not a tortoise if judged UNDECIDABLE. Also, I believe IRRELEVANT is appropriate per

DIS: Re: BUS: Attempted tortoise

2009-11-30 Thread ais523
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 09:17 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > CFJ: If the Chief Whip announced that 2 + 2 = 5, it would be legal > to publicly agree. > > Arguments: The Chief Whip card is possessed by the Lost and Found > Department, a non-person. Is this sufficient to force a judgement > of UNDECIDABL

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attempted tortoise

2009-11-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, ais523 wrote: > On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 09:17 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: >> CFJ: If the Chief Whip announced that 2 + 2 = 5, it would be legal >> to publicly agree. >> >> Arguments: The Chief Whip card is possessed by the Lost and Found >> Department, a non-person. Is this suffi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attempted tortoise

2009-11-30 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 09:27 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, ais523 wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 09:17 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> CFJ: If the Chief Whip announced that 2 + 2 = 5, it would be legal > >> to publicly agree. > >> > >> Arguments: The Chief Whip card is possessed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attempted tortoise

2009-11-30 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 09:27 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, ais523 wrote: >>> On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 09:17 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: CFJ: If the Chief Whip announced that 2 + 2 = 5, it would be legal to publicly agree. Argume

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attempted tortoise

2009-11-30 Thread Craig Daniel
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Hmm, that parsing doesn't quite work with how we usually read CFJs. > If I ask "if A then B" then I am asking for a judgement on what B is in > the case where A is true.  If it is impossible in our current universe/ > ruleset for A to be true