Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 08:31 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, > > I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN > publish whatever I want. Probably the creation

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > Sorry, re-reading this thread, maybe I missed something: was this a > systematic attempt to break out every instance in the Rules in which two > different actions in a single rule are two different ways of breaking > the rules? I think the fact that there were only a few in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I can understand that. In that case, just drop all specific officer- > lateness tinkering (e.g. the Herald) and you're good to go! I guess > my whole point is: re-level systematically, or re-level none, but don't > re-level 2 or 3 picked more-or-less at r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> True, but the problem now is that the severity of the offense really >> has nothing to do with the power of the rule, which is the current >> default. Many tasks are at high AI because a quantity happens to be >> secured, not because th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > True, but the problem now is that the severity of the offense really > has nothing to do with the power of the rule, which is the current > default. Many tasks are at high AI because a quantity happens to be > secured, not because the task is inherently more important. In fac

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> Hmm... while I like this, it does have the drawback that then all >> deadlines are equal when they shouldn't be. Really Bad Trumpeting is a >> far lesser offense than failing to distribute proposals. >> > But since all these actions can be deputized anyway

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >> If a rule states that a certain person is required to perform an >> action within a specified time limit, and does not name a Specific >> crime for failure to comply within the time limit, then failure >> is the Specific Crime of Delay of Gam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:47, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I was thinking of something like the following: >> >>     If a rule states that a certain person is required to perform an >>     action within a specified time limit, and does not name a Specific >>     crime for failure to com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, >>> I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN >>> publish whatever I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> You don't need this to do that. They're two separate paragraphs and >>> two separate types of actions, so they're already two different ways of >>> violating the rule. Point remains: "lateness of an Officer's asa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> You don't need this to do that. They're two separate paragraphs and >> two separate types of actions, so they're already two different ways of >> violating the rule. Point remains: "lateness of an Officer's asap duty" >> should be a g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > You don't need this to do that. They're two separate paragraphs and > two separate types of actions, so they're already two different ways of > violating the rule. Point remains: "lateness of an Officer's asap duty" > should be a general rule with a leveled set of consequen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> As soon as possible after a patent title is awarded or revoked, >>> the Herald SHALL announce the award or revocation. Failure to do >>> so is the Crime of Really Awful Trumpetry. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >> As soon as possible after a patent title is awarded or revoked, >> the Herald SHALL announce the award or revocation. Failure to do >> so is the Crime of Really Awful Trumpetry. > > > If you're going to single out one

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, >> I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN >> publish whatever I want. Probably the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>      A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, > > I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN > publish whatever I want. Probably the creation of the NoV shou

DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > As soon as possible after a patent title is awarded or revoked, > the Herald SHALL announce the award or revocation. Failure to do > so is the Crime of Really Awful Trumpetry. If you're going to single out one officer, or a small set of offi

DIS: Re: BUS: Crime Proposal

2009-07-07 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: >      A player CAN publish a Notice of Violation (with N support, I've never liked this bit. Unless the Distributor blocks me, I CAN publish whatever I want. Probably the creation of the NoV should be separated from the publication of the allegati