Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2011-06-15 Thread Pavitra
On 06/15/2011 11:31 PM, omd wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I think the timing of truth values and disclaimers is in fact "more >> complex and less clear." For example, if disclaimers work immediately >> forward, it would imply they could work immediately backwards

DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2011-06-15 Thread omd
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I think the timing of truth values and disclaimers is in fact "more > complex and less clear."  For example, if disclaimers work immediately > forward, it would imply they could work immediately backwards, with > connotations that a "message" n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2011-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Pavitra wrote: > On 06/15/2011 05:53 PM, Pavitra wrote: > > This is not at all obvious to me. Backwards-disclaimers *might* work if > > the disclaimer was in the same atomic message as the disclaimed text, > > but in the case of any kind of confusion, I would strongly lean to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2011-06-15 Thread Pavitra
On 06/15/2011 05:53 PM, Pavitra wrote: > This is not at all obvious to me. Backwards-disclaimers *might* work if > the disclaimer was in the same atomic message as the disclaimed text, > but in the case of any kind of confusion, I would strongly lean towards > evaluating in chronological order, wit

DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2011-06-15 Thread Tanner Swett
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Pavitra wrote: > CFJs 1451-1452 establish that messages generally can be split into > multiple emails. Gratuitious: yes, but in those cases, the messages were reasonably clearly marked as forming a single message. In this case, the messages are reasonably clearly

DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2011-06-15 Thread Pavitra
On 06/15/2011 04:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > if disclaimers work immediately > forward, it would imply they could work immediately backwards (I suggest using 'atomic message' to mean the ordinary sense of an email message, and 'compound message' to mean the legal fiction of a message reconstructed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2008-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Ed Murphy wrote: > Wooble wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:58 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I believe precedent is that if a disclaimer implies that something may >>> not actually be true, it's not an announcement. >> >> If so, we need to calculate a whole lot o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2008-09-28 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:58 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I believe precedent is that if a disclaimer implies that something may >> not actually be true, it's not an announcement. > > If so, we need to calculate a whole lot of gamestate. "I vote 5* FOR. > Disclaimer:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2008-09-28 Thread ihope
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:58 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I believe precedent is that if a disclaimer implies that something may >> not actually be true, it's not an announcement. > > If so, we need to calcula

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2008-09-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:58 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe precedent is that if a disclaimer implies that something may > not actually be true, it's not an announcement. If so, we need to calculate a whole lot of gamestate. "I vote 5* FOR. Disclaimer: this might not work, I'm

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2008-09-27 Thread ihope
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "not necessarily true" doesn't imply automatically false, does it? I believe precedent is that if a disclaimer implies that something may not actually be true, it's not an announcement. --Ivan Hope CXXVII

DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2008-09-27 Thread Sgeo
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:56 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Disclaimer: The remainder of this message is not necessarily true. > > I CFJ on the following statement: This CFJ will exist one second from now. > > Disclaimer: The above disclaimer is not necessarily true. This > disclaimer take