Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2014-06-19 at 20:03 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2014 5:19 PM, "Jonathan Rouillard" > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Henri Bouchard > wrote: > > > By the way, what does "H" stand for in "H. Henri"? > > > > > > -Henri > > > > It stands for Honorable, I think - p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ah, I apologize for misspeaking on the history. That was what > I had been told, and evidently it was incorrect. In game, I'm guessing it was used mostly for formal requests, and one most often makes such requests of officers (emphasizing office title und

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Hono[u]rable is used to refer to any member of a legislature. Come to think of it, I think it's high time we changed our politeness metaphor. I suggest Royal Navy 19th Century, aka the "hornblower": "Please pay my compliments to the Promotor, and ask

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Hono[u]rable is used to refer to any member of a legislature. When > I joined, it was used to address any player formally, on the basis > that we were all voting members of a legislative body. I've always > hoped it could develop to someth

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, Sean Hunt wrote: > It used to be that the rules required addressing office-holders as > 'Honourable', often abbreviated to H. That's no longer the case, but > it has stuck around when referring to officeholders in their official > capacities. Hono[u]rable is used to ref

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Sean Hunt
On Jun 19, 2014 5:19 PM, "Jonathan Rouillard" wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > > By the way, what does "H" stand for in "H. Henri"? > > > > -Henri > > It stands for Honorable, I think - presumably, you hold an office that > gives you that title. > > ~ Agua Rojo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > By the way, what does "H" stand for in "H. Henri"? > > -Henri It stands for Honorable, I think - presumably, you hold an office that gives you that title. ~ Agua Rojo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Henri Bouchard
By the way, what does "H" stand for in "H. Henri"? -Henri

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:17 PM, omd wrote: >> omd says: >>"tightly meeting deadlines is not usually considered a problem" >> >> Rule 1607 states that "the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir weekly >> duties, distribute all pending proposals. Therefore, it is not >> meeting the weekly deadline is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread omd
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > omd says: >"As stated in Rule 1023, Agoran weeks begin on Mondays, not > Tuesdays." > > That is entirely ambiguous. Midnight Monday is not defined in the > ruleset to be 00:00 or 24:00. I do not believe it has ever been treated as 2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Henri Bouchard
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:04 PM, omd wrote: > > Arguments: > > As stated in Rule 1023, Agoran weeks begin on Mondays, not Tuesdays. > The caller did indeed publish a message at the stated time (although > that's not the one e labeled as a CoE - not that it matters), but it > was well after the Pro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
Gratuitous: On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, omd wrote: > That said, as the precedent of the recent Referee case reminds us, the > Referee's behavior is almost entirely discretionary, so it doesn't > matter what e deserves; this case should be DISMISSed as irrelevant. I disagree here. There's no reason a

DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread omd
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > S T A T E M E N T > - > > Scshunt, the Promotor, for violating Rule 1607 (Distribution) > for violating Rule 2143 (Official Reports and Duties), and for > committing t

DIS: Re: BUS: Judicial Case: The Three Crimes of Promotor Scshunt

2014-06-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014, Henri Bouchard wrote: > Scshunt, the Promotor, for violating Rule 1607 (Distribution) > for violating Rule 2143 (Official Reports and Duties), and for > committing the Class-2 Crime of Tardiness, deserves to be awarded > a punishment no less severe than a Yellow Card.