DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:51 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree to this pledge: 1) This is a public contract. 2) This contract is a pledge. 3) Rules with an ID number of 2166 are a class of fixed assets restricted to players, with the Rulekeepor as recordkeepor. 4) comex may

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread comex
On 3/11/08, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I considered something like this in my original scam, but it falls afoul of R105. Does it? I think destroying a rule is unambiguously equivalent to repealing it. Either way, the purpose of this was to prevent the publishing of a contract similar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/11/08, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I considered something like this in my original scam, but it falls afoul of R105. Does it? I think destroying a rule is unambiguously equivalent to repealing it. Either

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/11/08, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I considered something like this in my original scam, but it falls afoul of R105. Does it? I think destroying a rule is unambiguously equivalent to repealing

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: What auto-destroy mechanism? Rule 2166: Each asset has exactly one owner. If an asset would otherwise lack an owner, it is owned by the Bank. If an asset's backing document restricts its ownership to a class of entities, then that asset CANNOT be gained

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The claim being made is that unowned assets get transferred to the Bank (by the second sentence) and then destroyed (by the second half of the third), if the Bank is not an authorised owner. That's highly dubious; I think

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The claim being made is that unowned assets get transferred to the Bank (by the second sentence) and then destroyed (by the second half of the third), if the Bank is not an authorised owner. That's highly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But that would still be a gain, thus prevented by the first half of the third sentence. The rule also says Each asset has exactly one owner. If the Bank can't own it by default, then who does? At best, the rule is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your logic is accepted, then contest-defined assets are not properly defined, since they fail to define the entity required to track them. Additionally, rests were not properly defined (since R2195 did not define the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about this a bit further, and it seems there are two possibilities. It seems clear that R2166 in some sense requires a defined asset to have a defined recordkeepor, but it's less clear whether a

DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ed Murphy
ihope wrote: I agree to this pledge: When this contract is created, Ivan Hope CXXVII is awarded 1,000,000 Notes of every type, then this contract terminates itself. I'd CFJ on the statement Ivan Hope CXXVII has at least 1,000,000 Notes of every type, but that'd be just silly, I think.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Kelly wrote: The rule also says Each asset has exactly one owner. That provision may well be broken due to the rule failing to provide a mechanism to enforce it. I don't think it is. As comex has pointed out, gain has a

DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing

2008-03-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:26 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Bob is a person. * Bob is a player. Unlikely. R2166 doesn't define what a person is, which is the requirement of R2150. Instead, it merely imposes some contractually defined regulation upon them. * Bob is a first-class

DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing

2008-03-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:44 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree to this pledge: When this contract is created, Ivan Hope CXXVII is awarded 1,000,000 Notes of every type, then this contract terminates itself. This doesn't meet the criteria of a backing document as laid out in R2166.

DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing

2008-03-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:47 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...though perhaps that was unwanted, as I failed to see the point of these previous pledges the first time around. The reason I think mine worked is the first sentence of R2166: An asset is an entity defined as such by an