DIS: Re: BUS: Perpetual Violation Machine

2008-07-17 Thread Zefram
ihope wrote: >Now, assuming that "Ivan Hope is always in violation of this pledge" >works, I don't think it does. Ivan Hope is not actually contravening any obligation imposed by the pledge, so e is not in violation of it. The quoted clause is just a false statement. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Perpetual Violation Machine

2008-07-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:32 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree to the following: {This is a pledge. Ivan Hope is always in > violation of this pledge. Ivan Hope can leave this pledge by > announcement.} > > Now, assuming that "Ivan Hope is always in violation of this pledge" > works, I

DIS: Re: BUS: Perpetual Violation Machine

2008-07-16 Thread Charles Reiss
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:32 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree to the following: {This is a pledge. Ivan Hope is always in > violation of this pledge. Ivan Hope can leave this pledge by > announcement.} > > Now, assuming that "Ivan Hope is always in violation of this pledge" > works,