On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> ais523 wrote:
>
>> genuine paradoxes (e.g. the 'paradox win', which strangely appears to
>> have no attached CFJ (were the relevant rules different back then),
>> about assigning Goethe to CFJ 1596; just because there are two
>
> Yes, per http://
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> In any case, there's still trust involved... if the vote is strongly FOR,
>> a refusal to vote could kill it where as a PRESENT is as good as a FOR.
>
> Except we met quorum long ago anyway.
Yeah
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> In any case, there's still trust involved... if the vote is strongly FOR,
> a refusal to vote could kill it where as a PRESENT is as good as a FOR.
Except we met quorum long ago anyway.
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Pavitra wrote:
> Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> I understand, will you trust me enough if I say 6407-6409 are straightforward
>> and needed bug fixes (by Wooble, coppro, and me) that everyone I think has
>> voted FOR so far, so a simple FOR would be greatly appreciated there?
>
> In th
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Proto-proto: Replace the first with "If ..., then an attempt made by
> the player to play a card in eir possession still causes the card to be
> destroyed, but e CAN re-create the card in eir possession by correctly
> announcing that this was the case withi
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 07:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote:
>>> Arguments: Contradiction != paradox. We have R217 for this sort of
>>> thing.
>>
>> Huh. R217 allows judging in the best interests of the game to sort out
>> "incon
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 09:05 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
> ais523 wrote:
> > Here's a potentially related issue: what happens if something very
> > relevant to the gamestate (e.g. playership of someone who holds several
> > offices) is genuinely UNDETERMINED? (i.e. not paradoxical, just nobody
> > knows
ais523 wrote:
> genuine paradoxes (e.g. the 'paradox win', which strangely appears to
> have no attached CFJ (were the relevant rules different back then),
> about assigning Goethe to CFJ 1596; just because there are two
Yes, per http://agora.qoid.us/rule/2110 (side note: messy, evidently
auto-co
Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I understand, will you trust me enough if I say 6407-6409 are straightforward
> and needed bug fixes (by Wooble, coppro, and me) that everyone I think has
> voted FOR so far, so a simple FOR would be greatly appreciated there?
In that case, shouldn't PRESENT work just as well
G. wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> 1. Caste is also secured-2 so no dice.
>> Well, playing the cards ineffectually to get them out of my hand works too.
>
> R2256 is pretty clear here:
> If the information is inc
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 07:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote:
> > Arguments: Contradiction != paradox. We have R217 for this sort of
> > thing.
>
> Huh. R217 allows judging in the best interests of the game to sort out
> "inconsistent" sets of rules, which is basical
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote:
> Arguments: Contradiction != paradox. We have R217 for this sort of
> thing.
Huh. R217 allows judging in the best interests of the game to sort out
"inconsistent" sets of rules, which is basically sorting out paradoxes
among other things.
Wins aside, it coul
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 06:49 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> 1. Caste is also secured-2 so no dice.
>> 2. If voters weren't slackers, this would be fixed by now. I guess ais523
>>would rather complain than vote to fix?
>
> I'm too confused to take game actions
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 06:49 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> 1. Caste is also secured-2 so no dice.
> 2. If voters weren't slackers, this would be fixed by now. I guess ais523
>would rather complain than vote to fix?
I'm too confused to take game actions atm; Agora's currently
sufficiently complic
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> 1. Caste is also secured-2 so no dice.
>
> Well, playing the cards ineffectually to get them out of my hand works too.
R2256 is pretty clear here:
If the information is incorrect, or the expl
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> 1. Caste is also secured-2 so no dice.
Well, playing the cards ineffectually to get them out of my hand works too.
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> I set my Salary to {Change, Government, Justice, Justice}.
> I play Local Election to decrease Murphy's caste.
1. Caste is also secured-2 so no dice.
2. If voters weren't slackers, this would be fixed by now. I guess ais523
would rather complain t
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