On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, ais523 wrote:
> Agreed with this; I've worked with such scams with comex in the past,
> and have also done personal scams (without help) which required months
> of setup. However, I think my favourite gameplay ever was proposal 5707
> and its aftermath;
IIRC, this was similar
2009/8/1 ais523 :
> Heh, it was more complicated than that. The 'subcabal' containing me and
> Sgeo was actually legitimate, in that we were planning genuine scams
> there (some of which we have to try sometime; I don't think any of them
> were actually attempted). We disguised it as a secret cabal
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:37 AM, ais523 wrote:
> Heh, it was more complicated than that. The 'subcabal' containing me and
> Sgeo was actually legitimate, in that we were planning genuine scams
> there (some of which we have to try sometime; I don't think any of them
> were actually attempted). We d
On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 12:52 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote:
> 2009/8/1 Ed Murphy :
> > comex wrote:
> >> At the extreme, I remember
> >> watching the creation, under a scamming organization called the
> >> "cabal", of a fake "sub-cabal" as a way to trick other players into
> >> participating in a scam b
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 22:58 -0400, comex wrote:
> The amount of planning behind a scam can vary wildly. Even planning
> out a relatively minor scam over IRC can be loads of fun,
> collaborating to check the ruleset for obscure problems and make up
> the exact wording to make it work properly... an
2009/8/1 Ed Murphy :
> comex wrote:
>> At the extreme, I remember
>> watching the creation, under a scamming organization called the
>> "cabal", of a fake "sub-cabal" as a way to trick other players into
>> participating in a scam believing they were participating in a
>> different one.
>
> Which s
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, comex wrote:
> On my part, a good, unambiguous, well-prepared scam win
> is my favorite goal in Agora.
Heh. Your perfect "scam" that unambiguously works (i.e. it's clearly
allowed by the rules once revealed) fits the definition of my perfect
"power play". So we agree :)
comex wrote:
> At the extreme, I remember
> watching the creation, under a scamming organization called the
> "cabal", of a fake "sub-cabal" as a way to trick other players into
> participating in a scam believing they were participating in a
> different one.
Which scam was that?
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Honestly, I think what makes a good game work is "creative tension."
> Around here, examples I've been in the thick of/in the race for:
>
> 1. A tight race to a win condition;
> 2. An attempt to reach and/or hold a pinnacle of political posi
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Elliott Hird wrote:
> 2009/7/31 ais523 :
>> I wonder if you're the only nomic player who thinks that winning is only
>> good because of the political benefits you get from it? For me, I'm only
>> trying to get into positions of political power so that I can
>> subsequently win
2009/7/31 ais523 :
> I wonder if you're the only nomic player who thinks that winning is only
> good because of the political benefits you get from it? For me, I'm only
> trying to get into positions of political power so that I can
> subsequently win from them.
People don't like winning at all: i
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, ais523 wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 08:29 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> Staying on the list once you're on it (by successive wins) has a much
>> higher premium than it used to. In a rational game, one should be able
>> to drive a harder bargain with coppro.
>
> I wonder if y
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 08:29 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Staying on the list once you're on it (by successive wins) has a much
> higher premium than it used to. In a rational game, one should be able
> to drive a harder bargain with coppro.
I wonder if you're the only nomic player who thinks that
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> 6420 O 0 1.0 G. no, really!
A note on this: beyond the obvious "let me win" thing. We did this because
of the new speaker succession rules:
1. If 2+ people win before coppro wins, e rotates off the Speaker list.
2. If coppro wins,
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