Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [scam] rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5949-5964

2008-11-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 19:19 -0500, Joshua Boehme wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:41:11 -0500 comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cause Rule 1367 to amend itself by adding the following historical annotation: { Note: comex CAN, and has been able to for the past several months, cause this

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [scam] rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5949-5964

2008-11-19 Thread comex
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, but as a part of the text it would no longer be an annotation. I disagree with you, but that interpretation's fine. In that case, the added text was a historical annotation before I added it to a Rule, so Rule 1051 let

DIS: Re: OFF: [scam] rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5949-5964

2008-11-18 Thread Joshua Boehme
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:41:11 -0500 comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cause Rule 1367 to amend itself by adding the following historical annotation: { Note: comex CAN, and has been able to for the past several months, cause this rule to amend itself by announcement. } Annotations != rules.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [scam] rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5949-5964

2008-11-18 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Nov 2008, at 00:19, Joshua Boehme wrote: Annotations != rules. The rules require the Rulekeepor to track annotations and encourage em to do so, but it gives no particular legal force to the annotations so tracked. But he can APPEND a historical annotation to a RULE'S TEXT. - It

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [scam] rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5949-5964

2008-11-18 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Elliott Hird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Nov 2008, at 00:19, Joshua Boehme wrote: Annotations != rules. The rules require the Rulekeepor to track annotations and encourage em to do so, but it gives no particular legal force to the annotations so tracked.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [scam] rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5949-5964

2008-11-18 Thread comex
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The actual verbiage is ...the Rulekeepor CAN cause it to amend itself by adding a historical annotation At best, this is self-contradictory. The word amend implies that the text is changed; the word annotation implies

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [scam] rulekeepor's notes on proposals 5949-5964

2008-11-18 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:30 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if this note was added to the text of the Rule itself? Note: Players must obey the Rules even in out-of-game actions; this was established by CFJ 24. Exactly the same text would serve in a Rule to create the