Re: DIS: argument in support of conditional voting

2017-10-10 Thread Aris Merchant
Arguments: Rule 683 identifies a ballot in the sentence "An entity submits a ballot on an Agoran decision by publishing a notice satisfying the following conditions". Presumably, the notice is what is being referred to as a ballot. The fact that the ballot is a notice is very important, because it

Re: DIS: argument in support of conditional voting

2017-10-10 Thread Aris Merchant
Give me a few more hours please to provide arguments. Sorry I'm late. -Aris On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The main issue I have with your judgement is not the trust tokens, it's > this very clear statement at the end of the rule paragraph: > "If the option cannot be c

Re: DIS: argument in support of conditional voting

2017-10-10 Thread Alexis Hunt
Ok, thanks. I will definitely confess that I didn't take that clause into account, so I'll look at things more carefully when I get to this. On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 at 12:12 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > The main issue I have with your judgement is not the trust tokens, it's > this very clear statement a

Re: DIS: argument in support of conditional voting

2017-10-10 Thread Kerim Aydin
The main issue I have with your judgement is not the trust tokens, it's this very clear statement at the end of the rule paragraph: "If the option cannot be clearly identified, a vote of PRESENT is cast." This clause is independent of the timing clauses earlier in the paragraph, and by Rule 2240

Re: DIS: argument in support of conditional voting

2017-10-10 Thread Alexis Hunt
I don't have the time to fully go through this right yet, though I know my reconsideration deadline is coming up soon. I will start by saying that the effect of this judgment on trust tokens is potentially unfortunate, but that the point of Nomic is to play the game as written, not the way that we

DIS: argument in support of conditional voting

2017-10-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
First, I was incorrect when I say there will be "no net effect" of this judgement. Back to it's original purpose, IT INVALIDATES ALL PAST ENDORSEMENT TRUST TOKENS. So if you've been collecting trust tokens, you might care. I think a main issue with Alexis's arguments for CFJ 3569 are here: >