On 1/10/2020 7:30 PM, Falsifian wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 20:25, Alexis wrote:
(and
possibly codifying an approach to "is history part of the game state").
Aris tried to do this in June with eir "Timeline Control Ordnance" [0]
which became Proposal 8195. I don't remember exactly why we vo
On 1/10/2020 6:53 PM, Falsifian wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 23:12, G. wrote:
>> We've had a couple conversations along similar lines in the last year
>> or two and people were generally positive. Specifically two ideas
>> came up: (1) making each officer the "primary judge" on disputes
>> a
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 20:25, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
> (and
> possibly codifying an approach to "is history part of the game state").
Aris tried to do this in June with eir "Timeline Control Ordnance" [0]
which became Proposal 8195. I don't remember exactly why we voted it
down, e
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 19:36, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> This would also
> have the feature of making an officer's memoranda an election issue.
It would be fun to have something for candidates to debate. I suppose
Aris's v2 proto entails this, since it would allow a new officer to
r
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 23:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> We've had a couple conversations along similar lines in the last year
> or two and people were generally positive. Specifically two ideas
> came up: (1) making each officer the "primary judge" on disputes
> about their report
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 18:56, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Would anyone complain/object if I ratified a "false" Herald's Report
> that claims the Notices of Honor received during the Troubles were
> successful?
>
> Looking at the message list that Murphy nicely assembled for Proposals
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:07 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
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>
> Aris wrote:
> > A minimalist proto along the lines of #1 follows. This could be a
> > complex interconnected set of 15 rules, but I think it would be more
> > fun to leave it as minimal as possible at let the judicia
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 14:51, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > I’m intrigued by the idea. I’m a little concerned that it’s TOO
> vague—are these rulings CFJ-like (a mean
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:51 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
> > The idea doesn’t seem immediately bad (although I’m not sure I prefer it
> > either) but I think such an important area is not suitable for the “write
> > something simple and let CFJs figure it out” strategy.
>
> What
:56:43 AM PST
> To: Aris Merchant
> Subject: Re: DIS: ratifying honour etc.
>
> I’d probably be at least a PRESENT on this if there was some provision that
> CFJs were the ultimate arbiter of how this mechanism works. I’m just worried
> about some sort of “constitutional cr
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:59 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> I’m intrigued by the idea. I’m a little concerned that it’s TOO vague—are
> these rulings CFJ-like (a means of agreeing on what happened platonically,
> but with no actual platonic effect) or ratification-like? How is
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:34 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
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> On 1/8/20 12:08 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> Each officer has the power to, with notice, issue a memorandum,
> >> which shall consist in a public document and shall, once issued,
> >> have the po
On 1/8/20 12:08 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Each officer has the power to, with notice, issue a memorandum,
>> which shall consist in a public document and shall, once issued,
>> have the power to resolve bindingly any matter within eir official area of
>> concern, inso
Aris wrote:
> A minimalist proto along the lines of #1 follows. This could be a
> complex interconnected set of 15 rules, but I think it would be more
> fun to leave it as minimal as possible at let the judiciary sort out
> the details.
>
> -Aris
> --
> Title: Administrative Adjudication
> Adoption
Seems reasonable to me.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 12:09 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:24 PM Aris Merchant
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:12 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 7
I’m intrigued by the idea. I’m a little concerned that it’s TOO vague—are these
rulings CFJ-like (a means of agreeing on what happened platonically, but with
no actual platonic effect) or ratification-like? How is arbitrariness and
capriciousness defined/judged? What about “official area of conc
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:24 PM Aris Merchant
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> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:12 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> > > This gets me thinking of a potential big and maybe-interesting-maybe-not
> > >
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:12 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > This gets me thinking of a potential big and maybe-interesting-maybe-not
> > big change to the order of things... what if officers presumptively
On 1/7/20 4:13 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> H. Assessor, I'm sorry for leaving you with a mess; if there's
> anything the Promotor's office can do to help, let me know.
>
> -Aris
I don't think there are any problems left right now. The resolutions
should self-ratify in a few da
On 1/7/20 6:10 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> (2) dividing the ruleset itself so that rule categories
> are more binding, and rules precedence works as "category then power"
> (e.g. any rule in the "economy" category has precedence over
> "non-economy" category when it comes to coins
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 18:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > This gets me thinking of a potential big and maybe-interesting-maybe-not
> > big change to the order of things...
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
> This gets me thinking of a potential big and maybe-interesting-maybe-not
> big change to the order of things... what if officers presumptively had the
> ability to rule on their areas of gamestate, in a more active manner tha
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 16:13, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > Would anyone complain/object if I ratified a "false" Herald's Report
> > that claims the Notices of Honor r
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Would anyone complain/object if I ratified a "false" Herald's Report
> that claims the Notices of Honor received during the Troubles were
> successful?
>
> Looking at the message list that Murphy nicely assembled for Propo
Would anyone complain/object if I ratified a "false" Herald's Report
that claims the Notices of Honor received during the Troubles were
successful?
Looking at the message list that Murphy nicely assembled for Proposals
8278-8279, I kinda feel like the easiest way is for officers to just
ratify ind
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