Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: > >The rule also says "Each asset has exactly one owner." > > That provision may well be broken due to the rule failing to provide a > mechanism to enforce it. I don't think it is. As comex has pointed out, "

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Zefram
Ian Kelly wrote: >The rule also says "Each asset has exactly one owner." That provision may well be broken due to the rule failing to provide a mechanism to enforce it. >If the Bank >can't own it by default, then who does? Since the rule's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread comex
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But that would still be a gain, thus prevented by the first half of the > third sentence. R2166 explicitly defines (defined?) gain: To "gain" an asset is to have it created in one's possession. In this attempted scam, no ob

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been thinking about this a bit further, and it seems there are > two possibilities. It seems clear that R2166 in some sense requires a > defined asset to have a defined recordkeepor, but it's less clear > whether a d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your logic is accepted, then contest-defined assets are not > properly defined, since they fail to "define" the entity required to > track them. Additionally, rests were not properly defined (since > R2195 did not defi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But that would still be a gain, thus prevented by the first half of the > third sentence. The rule also says "Each asset has exactly one owner." If the Bank can't own it by default, then who does? At best, the rule is int

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The claim being made is that unowned assets get transferred to the >> Bank (by the second sentence) and then destroyed (by the second half >> of the third), if the Bank is not an authorised owner. That's highl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The claim being made is that unowned assets get transferred to the > Bank (by the second sentence) and then destroyed (by the second half > of the third), if the Bank is not an authorised owner. That's highly > dubious; I th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: >What auto-destroy mechanism? Rule 2166: Each asset has exactly one owner. If an asset would otherwise lack an owner, it is owned by the Bank. If an asset's backing document restricts its ownership to a class of entities, then that asset CANNOT be gained

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 3/11/08, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I considered something like this in my original scam, but it falls >> > afoul of R105. >> >> Does it? I think "destroying" a rule is unambiguously equivalen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/11/08, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I considered something like this in my original scam, but it falls > > afoul of R105. > > Does it? I think "destroying" a rule is unambiguously equivalent to > repealing it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Partnership smashing smashing

2008-03-11 Thread comex
On 3/11/08, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I considered something like this in my original scam, but it falls > afoul of R105. Does it? I think "destroying" a rule is unambiguously equivalent to repealing it. Either way, the purpose of this was to prevent the publishing of a contract sim