DIS: Re: BUS: [Airstrip One] Flight Schedule

2009-06-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 00:32 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: Yally wrote: CoE: Billy Pilgrim and root are not players. Admitted, they lost their props upon deregistration. I intend, without objection, to destroy all props owned by the Lost and Found Department. I object. Transferring them to

DIS: Re: BUS: [3SR-DM] (i)nventory

2009-06-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 23:49 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: coppro wrote: Sean Hunt wrote: Parties to 3-Scroll Rodne ais523 allispaul BobTHJ coppro comex c-walker OscarMeyr Pavitra Quazie Tiger I raise an equity case regarding 3-Scroll Rodney, in that I accidentally

Re: DIS: AWJ?

2009-06-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 19:27 +0100, C-walker wrote: 16th: Coppro discusses new criminal justice system. G. protos the return of CFJ dismissal. Ais523 supposedly acts on behalf of myndzi to register em. It was my idea (sorry), but pikhq got there first. -- ais523

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Office Report

2009-06-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 12:26 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: Notary List of Contracts 20 Jun 09 The Notary has a weekly duty of tracking various switches, too. This means that two different rules require me to publish a list of public contracts (a requirement to publish a list of

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Office Report

2009-06-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 12:37 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: Well, publishing a description of the Notary's report is not an official part of the report and I don't have very much space to squeeze all that in there, so, do you have an alternative to List of Contracts? Contract Switches might

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: An action

2009-06-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 13:35 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Aaron Goldfeinaarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Why don't we just removed the silly plain text requirement? Because we want the archives to be usable. I have issues even editing various player's emails

Re: DIS: Act on Behalf

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:12 +0100, C-walker wrote: When a player (the attorney) acts on behalf of another player to perform an action, that action is performed as if the attorney is the player e is acting on behalf of. Hypothetical contract: {{Anyone but ais523 can leave this contract.}}

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6355-6376

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 08:29 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: G. wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: 6372 D 1 2.0 G. Transition Team AGAINST I'm a little puzzled by opposition to this (not just on your part, other voters too...) is there a bug I'm missing?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: What a coincidence...

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 22:08 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: coppro wrote: Warrigal wrote: ...that I should have two different jobs thrust upon me at the same time as I'm installed as Conductor. I resign as Conductor, thereby fulfilling the prophecy laid

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6377-6384

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 01:34 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Goldfein wrote: Your voting limit is 8. Incorrect. Rule .

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Grid

2009-06-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 19:36 +0100, C-walker wrote: Really? I thought recordkeepors could create assets that they recordkeep, but they got to the LFD because the recordkeepor doesn't have an ability to give them owners. I don't think the assets rule specifies whose possession the assets

DIS: Cards proto

2009-06-26 Thread Alex Smith
Comments in this proto are shown with quote marks; they won't be part of the final proposal, if we propose this one. Protoproposal (AI 2, II 3): Replace the text of rule 2126 with the following, and rename it Cards: {{{ Cards are a class of assets, restricted to players, whose recordkeepor

Re: DIS: Cards proto

2009-06-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 11:22 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: Er, here's the alternate one - currently just finishing up the card definitions. ais523, how do you want to proceed, pick one or merge? Probably best to pick yours, as it's more mature, and then merge in a few features of mine. In

Re: DIS: Cards proto

2009-06-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 19:35 +0100, C-walker wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Alex Smithais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: Replace the text of rule 2126 with the following, and rename it Cards: I suggest repealing 2126 and creating a new rule in its place. Otherwise I like it. 2126 has the

Re: DIS: Cards proto

2009-06-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 13:12 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote: Also, while I agree with ais523 that there should be a maximum hand size (to keep from having to track hundreds of cards for inactive players) I think that hand size should be set much higher than eir proposal suggestedpaticularly if

Re: DIS: Firmer Card draft

2009-06-26 Thread Alex Smith
I've edited out the bits of the proposal I think are unproblematic; here are comments on the other bits. On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 12:20 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: If a card class has a position, there is always exactly one such instance of the class in existence, and it CANNOT be

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP may be dead

2009-06-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 14:06 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I intend without objection to make the PerlNomic Partnership inactive; the server seems to be gone. I object; does anyone have a recent tarball? The PNP contract allows for the situation in which the existing PerlNomic server dies. --

DIS: Re: BUS: [3SR-DM] (i)nventory

2009-06-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 02:37 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Benjamin Caplancelestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: For each of the following not-yet-labels, I intend with 2 party support to append it to the list of labels: - COPPRO WOOPS - DIVIDE BY ZERO -

DIS: Re: BUS: [3SR-DM] (i)nventory

2009-06-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 16:19 -0400, Warrigal wrote: I favor this case and intend to deliver a good-of-the-game judgement. I object. -- ais523 Sorry, couldn't resist

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quantum Not-Report

2009-06-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 14:18 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: We should bring back Boons: a Boon for meritorious action of [N notes or new currency] may be given to a player by a judge finding that the action is deserving, with Agoran Consent. [This can be done by proposal now, this makes it a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP may be dead

2009-06-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 11:51 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Geoffrey Speargeoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote: I deregister the PNP. Fails; the PNP is a person. Err, nevermind, Ranier isn't a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2611 judged TRUE by Tanner Swett

2009-06-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 02:14 +0900, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: Judge Tanner Swett's Arguments: TRUE, because unless you believe a contract is a forum, you have no reason to attempt to flip its Publicity to Public; any attempt to do so is almost certainly an attempt to flip its

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PNP may be dead

2009-06-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 14:28 -0500, Benjamin Caplan wrote: I think we just have to assume in the absence of evidence to the contrary. Are there old CFJ decisions that would have to be overturned if it turned out that Hillary Rodham Clinton was a player? I doubt it, those were judged SLIPPERY for

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2606 assigned to Taral

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 00:08 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2606 == Equity Case 2606 == This omits my gratuitous arguments (that it would be more equitable to keep the total number of scrolls

DIS: Re: BUS: Contesting

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 10:20 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: As I have said, I don't know for sure when I will next suddenly disappear for over a week, so I leave all contests except AAA and the Cookie Jar. If you disappear for a couple of days, and I notice, I'll intend to make you inactive, to

DIS: Re: BUS: A rather flat Happy Birthday

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 05:10 -0700, Taral wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Alex Smithais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: to satisfy the Winning Condition of Musicianship, and I win by Musicianship. Congrats. :) Happy birthday Agora, by the way! Happy birthday Agora!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Contests: CO Set

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 17:00 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: As I'm trying to sort out who gained notes for awarding points - who was this constanza person, and what happened? Could someone who actually understood this scam please explain? constanza was presumably a third-party who agreed to help

DIS: Re: BUS: Cha cha cha

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 08:43 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: I spend G# F# F to gain E. I spend G# F# F to gain E. I'm not entirely sure the Note math works here. G# to F# is two semitones, F to E is one. Or have I misread what you were trying to do? -- ais523

Re: DIS: Ex-conductor's overdue report

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 19:18 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: If Conductor is still vacant when Murphy's and BobTHJ's win attempts have settled, I'll deputise to publish this report for real. And since I have made it anyway, I'll post it for the new conductor to use should e be installed soon.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contesting

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 19:35 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of me not wanting to become inactive due to bad stuff happening to, I dunno, maybe my crops or notes or something. But it seems not, and I think that I will at least have time to realize that I'm

DIS: Re: BUS: birthday

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:42 +0100, C-walker wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, Wooble wrote: Happy Birthday, Agora! I thought we went by UTC time? Anyway, Happy Birthday, Agora! We do for almost everything, the Birthday's an exception. Also, putting game actions in your sig? -- ais523

Re: DIS: Ex-conductor's overdue report

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 19:27 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: 2009/6/29 Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk: On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 19:18 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: If Conductor is still vacant when Murphy's and BobTHJ's win attempts have settled, I'll deputise to publish this report for real

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: birthday

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 19:08 +0100, C-walker wrote: Thanks for explaining that (to everyone that did). And are game action in your sig considered bad form? Sorry if they are, that was a one off. It's the sort of sneaky action that makes it look like you're trying to hide something; not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I'm so Errational

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 13:09 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 12:42 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, C-walker wrote: I change my name to 2.71828183... or e for short. I'll accept 2.71828..., but don't you think picking

Re: DIS: Proto: Charity

2009-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 00:08 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: I'm happy for any thoughts on names, by the way. English is not my first language and I'm not into charity or any kind of business or organisation, so I just picked names that sounded good. I do like the idea of charity; but, I think it

DIS: (no subject)

2009-07-05 Thread Alex Smith
This is another test. I'm starting to worry that Yahoo! can't send truly plain-text messages at all... -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to ditch the Points Party

2009-09-23 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Wed, 23/9/09, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: You're a damn immoral liar, claiming that your mousetrap would only be used for that proposal to me. Shame. I didn't; I also claimed that I would try to punish players who attempted to object by stealing/destroying

DIS: Re: BUS: Status

2009-10-04 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Sun, 4/10/09, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Geoffrey Spear wrote: I initiate a criminal case regarding the NoV against coppro. Arguments: As a member of ə, it is my responsibility to ensure that it does not violate the rules. This is not a specific obligation, but an ongoing

Re: DIS: Proto: Deal refactor (notes at bottom)

2009-10-11 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Sun, 11/10/09, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com Subject: Re: DIS: Proto: Deal refactor (notes at bottom) To: agora-discussion@agoranomic.org Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 12:19 AM Sean Hunt wrote: Proposal: Dealing Refactor (AI=?, II=3) I will

DIS: Intentionally ttdf

2009-10-13 Thread Alex Smith
I call for judgement on the statement It is possible to submit a Call for Judgement by sending a message to a Discussion Forum., submitting it to the Justiciar. Arguments: The Justiciar probably reads the discussion fora, at least occasionally, so is likely to receive the message. Although the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2696 assigned to coppro

2009-10-20 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 20/10/09, Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Alex Smith callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this. Without being able to see coppro's reasoning, I have no idea whether eir judgement

Re: DIS: Proto: The Citrine Repeals

2009-10-25 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Sun, 25/10/09, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose.  One point is that it would be nice to limit mousetraps to impose unfair obligations, not I can act on behalf of you to steal all your assets and deregister.  Your home is your castle and whatnot-- in this case, your person.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Free Parking

2009-10-30 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Thu, 29/10/09, Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com wrote: From: Roger Hicks pidge...@gmail.com Subject: BUS: Proposal: Free Parking To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Date: Thursday, 29 October, 2009, 7:31 PM I submit the following: Free Parking AI: 2 II: 1 { In R2262, add the

DIS: Re: OFF: [Dealor] Monthly audits

2009-12-01 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 1/12/09, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: As required by R2259, I destroy the following cards in the IBA's possession (selected by random.org; d...@nomic.net is infeasible for this): It's not that infeasible. Assign a number to each card, then generate random numbers from 1 to

DIS: Re: BUS: WRV

2009-12-01 Thread Alex Smith
I harvest 2741 and 2742 for 4 WRV. I IBA-deposit 4 WRV. I harvest 2471 and 2472 for 4 WRV. I IBA-withdraw 4 WRV. -- ais523

Re: DIS: proto-[Herald] Announcements Monthly Report

2010-02-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 11:30 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, comex wrote: FUGITIVES OF THE OLD LAW (Players who left Under a Cloud, unofficial list) I believe a proposal in Oct-Nov officially gave all these guys one Rest, making them

DIS: Re: [Agora] Public Headaches

2010-03-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 02:18 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: I, coppro, intend this to be a public message under Agoran law. All Agoran players, please read http://paste.debian.net/66733/ (hereafter referred to as The Paste). I CFJ { The Paste is a public message. } I CFJ { The Paste would, if

DIS: Re: BUS: Inquiry

2010-04-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 14:40 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: Arguments: This is a classical case of the Paradox of Self-Amendment. The rule says that If any change to the gamestate would cause ... any change in the effect or attributes of this rule ... including its repeal ... it is cancelled and

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6721-6723

2010-05-12 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Sun, 9/5/10, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: From: Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6721-6723 To: Agora Business agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Date: Sunday, 9 May, 2010, 4:29 On Sat, 8 May 2010, Ed Murphy

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2793 assigned to G.

2010-05-12 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Mon, 10/5/10, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Sun, 9 May 2010, Ed Murphy wrote:     The message quoted in evidence began a coup. In other news, I announce the ceremonial shilling of the palace. Hrm, I totally don't know here.  I personally saw the message when it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2796-98 assigned to coppro

2010-05-12 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 11/5/10, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: coppro wrote: I sit up. ITYM I stand up. Last I checked, players couldn't stand by announcement; has that changed? (However, given that we're apparently in an emergency session, it's unlikely to make much of a difference given that

DIS: Emergency at BlogNomic

2010-06-23 Thread Alex Smith
It seems that Darth Cliche (who is IIRC a former player of Agora), in protest at BlogNomic's slipping membership numbers, decided to gain a dictatorship via exploiting a rule designed to let em (as BlogNomic's RNG, its current name for the Emperor) make interesting gameplay; BlogNomic's ruleset is

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [BF Joust] Intent to end currrent tournament

2010-08-10 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 12:52 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: Having given a week's notice I make the changes detailed below. -Goethe On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: As no submissions were received this week, and only one last week, I announce my intent [no objections or support

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Hoisting one's own wormhole

2010-08-20 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Thu, 19/8/10, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: From: Keba ag...@kebay.org Subject: DIS: Re: BUS: Hoisting one's own wormhole To: agora-discussion@agoranomic.org Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 22:58 Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Uh, yeah, the shuttle is in a wormhole right now. It has been

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2833-34 assigned to Yally

2010-08-20 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Fri, 20/8/10, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I recuse myself as judge from CFJ 2833, because I just don't really know how to deal with it. Is it even possible to recuse yourself with a case immediately after judging? Whether it is or not, you probably specified the wrong

DIS: Re: BUS: D-Proposal: Barrel of Monkeys

2010-08-20 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Fri, 20/8/10, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Barrel of Monkeys (AI = 1, II = 2) Ugh, is Agora turning into BlogNomic? I don't really see anything all that interesting in the proposed mechanics; this would just be an exercise in grinding (as opposed to Space

DIS: Re: BUS: Listlessness proposal

2010-08-22 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Amend Rule 2284 (Fee-based actions) by appending the following:        - A player CAN move an indicated player an indicated number          of positions P on the list in an indicated direction (up          or down) for a charge

Re: DIS: annotating the ruleset (for new players)

2010-08-23 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Mon, 23/8/10, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: http://agora.qoid.us/current_flr.html?annotate=1 Probably broken on IE and/or in general. Seems to work on the Firefox on this computer. This should probably be made the default, if and when it's fully tested. -- ais523

Re: DIS: and another

2010-08-23 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Mon, 23/8/10, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I hope things are working now I conclude on general principles that you're planning a timing scam, and am wondering what it is. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not a cronjob

2010-08-24 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: Also, without objection, I intend to interpret The Robot as referring unambiguously to the (currently hypothetical) entity known as The Robot that may be added to

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-24 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I'm reminded of (Peekee?) submitting a Protoposal (instead of Proto-Proposal) and Kelly saying something like whatever the hell that is; presumably should be handled by the Protomotor. That's actually not a bad idea for an office.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposal 6796

2010-08-24 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: CoE: the submitter was The Robot. Nicknames are informal, and we can refer to you in any way that unambiguously identifies you. (Which The Robot probably doesn't do.) In particular,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not a cronjob

2010-08-25 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: In this case, the entity with the name The Robot will be coppro *at the time of the enaction of the rule*.  Also: A document referring to an entity by name refers to the entity that had that name when the document first came to include that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of Proposal 6796

2010-08-25 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: OIC. Proposal:  Mother says not to run on the concrete (AI = 3, II = 1, co-author = omd, distributable via fee) Amend Rule 106 (Adopting Proposals) by replacing this text:       If the Rules do not otherwise permit at least

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not a cronjob

2010-08-25 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, omd wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote: I change my nickname to 'The Robot'. -coppro See CFJ 1520.

DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-25 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Wed, 25/8/10, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I create a new Threat: Name: The Robot map symbol: R       H = 5       d = 2       e = 1       a = 2       s = 1       p = 1 I intend, without 2 objections from members of City, to rename City to The Robot. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enemy] Threat

2010-08-25 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Wed, 25/8/10, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:08 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Alex Smith callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I intend, without 2 objections from members of City, to rename City to The Robot

DIS: BUS: Protojudgements

2010-12-25 Thread Alex Smith
It is of course illegal to judge CFJs during a Holiday (merry Christmas, everyone!; besides, doesn't that violate R101?), but I thought people might appreciate, you know, actually knowing the gamestate. I submit the following as judge's arguments on the relevant CFJs, although I don't assign any

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3001 assigned to omd

2011-04-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 16:13 -0400, omd wrote: (a) a list of such intents could easily be found by performing a search for intend (all but two players use either Gmail or Yahoo, which are searchable, and I trust that G. and Murphy have some method to search their email); False assumption here,

DIS: Actually, time for a test

2011-10-16 Thread Alex Smith
; should such a message really be acceptable for game actions? -- Alex Smith

DIS: Attn CotC

2012-03-20 Thread Alex Smith
I just thought I'd send the CotC a reminder: you have less than a day left to assign CFJs 3187 and 3188. -- ais523

Re: DIS: So what is going on at the moment

2012-11-01 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2012-11-01 at 11:51 -0700, Klaus Herrmanns wrote: Hi, So what is currently going on in Agora? After some time spent browsing recent mail archives and CFJs I'm not quite sure whether the game is in a post-scam reorientation phase (still trying to figure out whether the scam succeeded

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: request to join

2012-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2012-11-04 at 23:51 -0500 or so, Tanner Swett wrote (five times): On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: I submit 12 promises to the Tree: Text: {{{I transfer an ais523 trading card to the person who cashed this promise.}}} Cashing condition

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: request to join

2012-11-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 00:01 -0500, Max Schutz wrote: alright providing i understand this correctly I cash the promise bearing in mind that i do not have a copy of the ais523 card if this is incorrect please let me know as i am a new player It's incorrect both because you sent it to the wrong

Re: DIS: Straw polls regarding the trading card contest

2012-11-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 06:45 -0800, Klaus Herrmanns wrote: I vote d). I waited to see what the various CFJs would say. Plus I note with interrest that players seem to rely on the rules defined mechanisms enforcing trades (or not, as these mechanisms have their quirks and gaps) rather

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Sure, it looks important, but it doesn't actually /do/ anything

2013-01-28 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 20:58 -0500, Tanner Swett wrote: I think I agree that rule 754 is useless, except that I think this part of it is very significant: A difference between two nonempty spans of whitespace is inconsequential in all forms of communication for all purposes. Maybe we should

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7337–7339

2013-01-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 00:45 +, Elliott Hird wrote: I register. I become active. On 28 January 2013 17:53, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: IDAI CHAMBER AUTHOR TITLE 7337 1.0 Ordinary Machiavelli Give those back PRESENT 7338 3.0 Ordinary ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 10:28 -0800, Wes Contreras wrote: I hereby become a Player. Again. I also contest the accuracy of the Herald's report issued on Jan 22, 2013, where a list of Fugitives is provided as the last section of the report. These persons are not, in fact, Fugitives, as that term

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2013-01-29 at 14:48 -0800, woggle wrote: Re: the online versions, comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ . Neat! We should update http://agoranomic.org with links to more current information, really. (It was futureproofed in the way it was

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3295 assigned to G.

2013-02-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 14:33 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: This applies all the way to the top promise, Contrariwise. Caller, do you have an argument against this? Regardless of what is going on or how the message is built up, via promises or text messages, the function of your scam depends upon

DIS: Re: BUS: contest: Keep On Voting

2013-02-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2013-02-27 at 13:12 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: I intend to make the following document Contest w/o 3 objections: Hmm. If this is a statement about the lack of votes and an attempt to fix it, a simpler fix might be just making it easier to find the Promotor's posts. The way proposals are

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: contest: Keep On Voting

2013-02-27 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2013-02-27 at 18:25 -0500, Tanner Swett wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I think one thing that would really help would be timely Humiliating Public Reminders. I could issue those along with proposals each week; would anyone like me

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 3297, and a fix proposal

2013-03-18 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 23:56 -0400, omd wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: The issue at issue in this case is what the relevant public document is, in the case of a proposal resolution. Based on the plain definitions in the rules, the only conclusion

DIS: Re: BUS: Player cleanup

2013-03-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2013-03-31 at 00:59 -0400, Max Schutz wrote: I object to making me inactive on the grounds that I have been busy with work and dealing with some personal stuff This is exactly the sort of circumstance that being inactive is meant for. I rarely deregister, but I become inactive due to

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-02 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 12:52 -0700, Wes Contreras wrote: Can anyone explain why Second-Class Players exist? Because they significantly complicate the Rules without any apparent benefit. It occurred to us that perhaps we should ask before drafting Proposals to remove them. Basically they're a

DIS: Dreams about nomic…

2013-04-07 Thread Alex Smith
It's quite rare for me to have dreams about nomic, but I did last night. Basically what happened in the dream was that we'd enacted a rule allowing players to temporarily ignore rules that they didn't like (the dream wasn't clear on the details, but I think it was some sort of heavy rate limit).

DIS: Re: DIS: Re: DIS: Dreams about nomic…

2013-04-08 Thread Alex Smith
--- On Sun, 7/4/13, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: I suggest we implement the form that was found in your dream: for $currency, a player can suspend some part of a rule (for the whole game or only as it relates to their actions?) for a while. It sounds more interesting

DIS: Re: BUS: More potential escalations.

2013-04-09 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 01:49 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: Proposal: Decomposition (AI=2) {{{ Append The basis of a Golem is that of its owner. to Rule 2360. }}} Given the number of recursive Golem loops we have at the moment, this doesn't seem like a particularly well-defined definition. --

DIS: Re: BUS: More potential escalations.

2013-04-10 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 01:19 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: I cause Rule 2380 to cause Rule 2361 to become a Slave Golem. I CFJ { Rule 2361 is a Slave Golem. } If Rule 2361 is a Slave Golem, I cause Rule 2380 to transfer it from the LFD to me. Arguments: The only reason I can think of that

DIS: Re: BUS: I don't understand how we missed this

2013-04-11 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 19:07 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: Proposal: Credit Where It's Due (AI=1.5) {{{ Award the Patent Title 'Scamster' to ais523. }}} Hmm. Custom used to be that people only obtained the Scamster title by means of an actual scam. However, the only time I scammed myself a Patent

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Notice: Elections initiated

2013-04-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 17:20 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote (nttpf): I nominate ais523 for Promotor. I'm randomly going several days at a time without Internet access at the moment, and also kind-of busy in real life. So I don't think I have time to take an office at the moment. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3305 assigned to G.

2013-04-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 01:31 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Ed Murphy wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3305 == CFJ 3305 == Rule 2361 has been informed of CFJ 3301.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: one last thing

2013-04-17 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 16:53 -0400, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: Gratuitous: Yes, Rule 2380 could have changed itself, but that would have read something like I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause Rule 2380 to change the text of Rule 2380 to [...]. or I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause

DIS: Re: BUS: it's only been like four months let's try this again

2013-04-22 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 17:36 -0400, omd wrote: I intend, without objection, to change the Publicity of the fora currently located at agora-busin...@agoranomic.org, agora-offic...@agoranomic.org, and agora-discussion@agoranomic.org to Foreign. I think I know why, but I'd strongly recommend

DIS: Re: OFF: [Comic Book Guy] Buyers Guide

2013-04-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 12:38 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: COMIC BOOK GUY = WEEKLY TRADING CARD REPORT My last attempt to do a general promise with respect to this turned out hideously broken, but the general sentiment is still there: I'll exchange an ais523 card for any card I don't currently have.

DIS: Re: BUS: More Ribbons!

2013-04-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 13:34 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: I award Blue Ribbons (for timely judgement of inquiry cases) to ais523 (CFJ 3308) and scshunt (CFJ 3307). -G. I think I had one already, but thanks for keeping an eye out for ribbon opportunities. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Horton] Promise Report

2013-05-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 00:43 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: I destroy this Promise, because it can never be cashed. How? I destroy these promises, because they have nonexistent authors. How? I own them. Promises are assets, people! They're tradeable just like any other currency, and destroyable too.

DIS: Re: BAK: Liquidation

2013-05-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 12:20 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Tanner Swett swe...@mail.gvsu.edu wrote: I create 1035 promises titled berk in my possession. Text: I transfer the specified trading card to the cashier, as long as the specified trading card is one of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick late judgement

2013-05-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 21:06 -0700, Wes Contreras wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:59 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: Considering that Making My Eyes Bleed was originally adopted at Class-6, and ehird was sentenced to TIME OUT for a Class-14 Crime, I wouldn't put much stock in the

DIS: Re: BUS: Not sure if this will go anywhere at all

2013-05-31 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 10:08 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: 1. Toy Nomic has no players. It is not possible to become a player of toy nomic. 2. The players of Toy Nomic can amend its Rules by unanimous consent. Doesn't this mean that it's platonically amending its rules in every possible way,

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