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On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:52 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> * Steve Holden :
>
>> Still happening. But when you read the error message that's not
>> surprising, because it seem
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t's bizarre. What with Stefan's e-mail also failing, I think teh
> Intertubes is haz bad hair day. Anyway, posted -- lemme know if you want
> anything different.
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> BTW, the link to cn.pycon.org is precisely what I was missing earlier.
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ValueError: (11, 'Resource temporarily unavailable') looks to me like a Cygwin
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memory locations. I very much doubt it's a real issue with Python, so closing
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We see in the "Quick-Start Tutorial" (py3k section 8.4.1) the following example:
>>> Decimal(3.14)
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In actua; fact one would expect an exception from that code, which
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On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> I propose that the redirector (hg.../lookup) redirects to the subversion
> viewer if it can't find a matching hg revision.
That sounds like an extremely user-friendly solution.
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On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Le lundi 25 avril 2011 à 14:29 -0400, Steve Holden a écrit :
>>
>> Great advice for the future, Antoine. Now can you help with the Hg
>> issue?
>
> As far as I understand it, this is not so much an hg issue than a
. Having to dig in VCS logs, or read many tracker
> entries, is IMO too tedious.
>
Great advice for the future, Antoine. Now can you help with the Hg issue?
I had understood that *all* history was going to be retained. Did I misremember
or was I incorrectly advised?
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I have already started nagging people about this. It's only just over five
months to go, and it's definitely time the CfP went out. Expect to see
movement in the next two weeks.
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On Mar 31, 2011 6:19 PM, "Shawn Milochik" wrote:
> It's a bit early, in the year, but I'd expect somethin
We should ask the pydotorg list to fix this. Should we at the same time requet
the assition of a field for the committer's user name?
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On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
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>
> On 3/23/2011 9:31 PM, Victor Stinner wrote:
>> http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-
Please note, if it makes a difference, that Online Degree Reviews currently a
pending sponsor member.
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On Mar 23, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Pat Campbell wrote:
> Hi Pydotorg:
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> Could you please add Online Degree Reviews to the Sponsor web page:
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> http://www.python.org/psf/
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Last I looked (though it's been a,while) the Django install dropped
django-admin.pt somewhere on the executable path. How did you install
Django?
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On Mar 17, 2011 5:05 PM, "gh" wrote:
> Hi
>
> I´m new to django and maybe this is a simple thing but I need some
> advise what's wrong.
>
Yes, I can. Thanks, Pat
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On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Pat Campbell wrote:
> Hi Steve:
>
> Are you able to read the attached spreadsheet?
> Thanks,
> Pat
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Steve Holden wrote:
> Pat:
>
> It appears that
Pat:
It appears that our contributor agreement records are not complete. Do you have
a list of people for whom we hold a signed agreement, please?
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On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Mar 16, 2011, at 06:14 AM, Steve Holden wrote:
>
>> Time
On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>
>> I'm not showing as a committer (also not showing as CLA received, but I
>> suppose that's different).
>
> I couldn't find you at first since you didn't put your last name into the
> tracker. I have fixed that as well now.
>
> As for th
On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 à 11:25 -0500, "Martin v. Löwis" a écrit :
So the next logical step would be to ask him. If Ross said that
he did send the form, that would be good enough for me to proceed.
That would also be a *solution*.
On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> > We don't need an explanation, we need a *solution*.
>
> Please speak for yourself only. Is it just you being upset to
> have to use paper, or is Ross Lagerwall actively refusing to
> put his signature on a piece of paper?
>
Because Antoine
On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:18 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> contributor-agreem...@python.org could be aliased to
> p...@python.org, p...@python.org, or even better, a
> PSF committee taking care of this business.
Lest this strike fear into the hearts of members I would point out that it
would operate mu
On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> I don't care and don't want to argue (I insist about this) about
> religions, be it christianism or intellectual property.
> If you think a legal rule is needed, please just *ensure it doesn't get
> in the way*. That's your job as a self-proclaim
> Otherwise, the PSF does not have the right to redistribute that
>> code under the PSF license.
>>
>> http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html#sign-a-contributor-agreement
>>
>>> Message transféré
>>> De: Pat Campbell
>>>
Pat should know if we have received one.
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On Mar 8, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 00:57 -0800, Raymond Hettinger a écrit :
>
>>
>> Do we have a signed contributor agreement?
>
> I've told Ross it would be nice to send one if he hadn't already
On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
>>> Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 13:19 -0500, Steve Holden a écrit :
>>>> In short, if someone isn't able to sign a contributor agreement we
>>>> should ask ourselves whether it's really appropriat
People who have not signed a contributor agreement should not be listed as code
authors: this leads to non-auditable contributions and a lack of clarity as to
intellectual property ownership that can have negative consequences. If you
want to make someone an author, confirm they are contributors
On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
>
> On Mar 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:
>
>> Antoine and me are starting the conversion now (it takes quite
>> a while to get the SVN repo and convert it, so we're doing it
>> overnight).
>
>
> Thanks for stepping up and getting
On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> Ah, how (much more) confused would we be if we didn't have the PEPs
> and mailing list archives to remind ourselves of what we were thinking
> years ago...
>
True. And how much more useful it would be if it were incorporated into the
documentati
then it is treated as a number, otherwise
> it is used as a string.
>
That's not strictly true:
>>> d = {"Steve":"Holden", "Guido":"van Rossum", 21.2:"float"}
>>> d[21.1]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "&qu
intended to be used as subscripts. Does
this seem sensible? Was it considered during design? Should I alter the
materials so that only integer subscripts are used?
regards
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On Feb 18, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Éric Araujo wrote:
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On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:59 AM, George Belotsky wrote
Ladies and gentlemen:
This note marks a turning point in my (unpaid) career with the PSF. I have been
a subscriber to this list and its predecessor for many years, and in many ways
regard it as the engine room of the Foundation.
The web is our primary communications channel with the outside wor
On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
>> Look at issue 11089. It is applied in 2.7 and 3.1, but it can't be
>> applied to 3.2 because we are in RC state now. Now, somebody *MUST*
>> remember to apply this patch when the 3.2 branch in open again. That is
>> a waste of mental energy
On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> I think extra clones per issue could work for some larger issues that
> require lots of work, but I don't think the
> every-small-feature-on-a-branch model (as practiced in Twisted, IIRC)
> is particularly helpful. On the other hand, I do think
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On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Feb 03, 2011, at 08:54 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect this problem with the preferred DVCS workflow is going to
>>> cut fairly heavily into the number of bug fixes applied to th
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Le mercredi 02 février 2011 à 19:39 +0100, Jesus Cea a écrit :
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 02/02/11 19:28, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
The merge here is mostly automatic. In fact, if the RM doesn't change
hi
I imagine many of you will have seen this, but it's worth over-posting to make
sure everyone gets to see it who is interested.
http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/open-source-community-simplified/
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On Jan 29, 2011, at 12:04 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
> If the module weren't already broken for most real-world purposes I'd
> no question want to wait. As it is I'm on the fence.
Me too, but I did want to acknowledge the correctness of Antoine's argument.
Yes, I reminded people (using multipr
Regards
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> Antoine.
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>
> Le vendredi 28 janvier 2011 à 14:51 -0800, Raymond Hettinger a écrit :
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Steve Holden wrote:
>>
>>> As teh reporter of that bug I should like to say in Victor's, Antoine's and
>>> David&#
As teh reporter of that bug I should like to say in Victor's, Antoine's and
David's support that the module is so broken without this patch that the module
should not really have been included in a production release.
Even if the current patch is broken, I believe the results of using that code
On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Carl Trachte wrote:
> There are some Asian characters on the left sidebar on the frontpage
> of www.python.org. Was this by design?
>
> Carl T.
Yes. Chinese users have been having difficulty downloading. The text means
"download", and the URL is different from the
On Jan 24, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Brian Curtin wrote:
> Michael Foord reached out to Tim Golden and myself to work on and maintain
> the currently outdated http://www.python.org/download/windows/ page, and I'd
> like to help.
>
I'm not surprised, that page is a disgrace. So, first of all, reassura
Could we consider offering a complimentary PyCon registration to a member of
the Coverity team as an encouragement to have someone around during the
sprints? I am sure that much useful informal education would take place,
benefiting many sprints, if we enable it and just let things happen.
Or w
On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
>> Andrew Kuchling hosts the official Python podcast/videos recordings
>> (/data/www/advocacy/podcasts/) through the advocacy.python.org domain
>> (http://advocacy.python.org/podcasts/ ). If you remove its DNS entry,
>> all those links are bro
This material should be moved to some other hosting more in line with our other
istes. Otherwise it qon't be maintained, and will be lost in due course.
regards
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On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
> On 14/01/2011 05:59, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
>> advocacy.python.org is un
it. I've been
> crashing against one bit of cleverness after another in Python's
> unification of types and classes...
Well if you can find a way to implement a class system that doesn't use
clever tricks *in its implementation* please let me know.
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On 12/24/2010 2:21 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> In comp.lang.c++ small Pox wrote:
>> http://...
>
> You should take your religion somewhere else.
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Sure you do.
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On 12/23/2010 11:54 AM, John Fabiani wrote:
> On Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:39:44 am bruno desthuilliers wrote:
>> On 23 déc, 06:33, John Fabiani wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>> John, may I suggest that instead of trying whatever comes to mind and
>> wonder what happens, you spend some times learnin
n help them.
Squid is a different matter. For that, probably if you go on an IRC
channel (freenode.net is what I use, but others have their favorites).
Maybe #squid?
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As Steven
d'Aprano has already said, these *are* corner cases and not the whole of
the language.
Don't worry about having a complete knowledge of the language before you
start to use it. That can induce paralysis ...
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There's a dict at sys.modules that has a key for each loaded module's
name. When an attempt is made to import a module the first thing the
interpreter does is to look at sys.modules. If it has the correct key in
it then the assumption is that the module has already been imported, and
its
ted due
> to all the interactions with the existing comparison methods) special
> method.
>
But the *real* point is (as the documentation attempts to point out)
that by providing the key argument it gets called only once per element,
whereas the cmp argument (or the objects' __cmp_
can be really useful as long
as you know who to listen to and who to ignore ...
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On 12/19/2010 3:48 PM, Maksymus007 wrote:
> you get array of arrays.
Technically, in strict Python terms what you get is a list of tuples.
Each element of the list is a tuple where each column from the query
provides an element of each tuple.
> First array contains rows. Every row is just an arr
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On 12/17/2010 11:13 AM, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 17/12/2010 15:53, Steve Holden wrote:
>
> [... snip example of for-else ...]
>
>> This construct appears to be unpopular in actual use, and when it comes
>> up in classes and seminars there is always interesting debate as peo
d is probably not Guido's crowning language
achievement, but then since the English keywords don't make natural
sense to those who speak other languages it's at least fair that there
should be one that isn't totally natural to English speakers. A small
price to pay for all
ust
>> don't need such guarantees in python.
>
> Even without the cleanup issue, sometimes you want to edit a function
> to affect all return values somehow. If you have a single exit point
> you just make the change there; if you have mulitple you have to hunt
> the
On 12/16/2010 6:28 PM, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
> Are you talking about UNIX process signals?
>
He's almost certainly talking about Django signals.
I've never seen a definite recommendation as to how to do things exactly
once early on in the life of your server process, so I am afraid I
cannot off
on how to apply and
>>> what are the prerequisites
>>
>> http://www.oreillyschool.com/certificates/python-programming.php
>>
>> No prerequisites that I could see, and currently they are running a 25%
>> discount promotional.
>>
>> ~Ethan~
>>
ing content.
>
> id('foo')
> 3082385472L
> id('foo')
> 3082385472L
>
> Anyone has that kind of code ?
>
> JM
>
>>> id("foo")
2146743808
>>> id ("f"+"o"+"o")
2146744096
>>>
regards
On 12/16/2010 5:44 AM, BartC wrote:
>> On 12/12/2010 2:32 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:
>>> Am 12.12.2010 19:31, schrieb Steve Holden:
>>> $ python -m timeit -n20 -- "i = 0" "while 1:" "i+=1" "if i ==
>>> 100: break"
On 12/15/2010 4:21 PM, Stefan Sonnenberg-Carstens wrote:
> Am 15.12.2010 22:11, schrieb Steve Holden:
>> On 12/15/2010 3:40 PM, Tim Chase wrote:
>>> On a more serious note, it would be interesting to know if it's possible
>>> to test out of the certification for
act me
privately by email on a "no promises" basis.
regards
Steve
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On 12/15/2010 12:54 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> So I just got an e-mail from O'Reilly and their School of Technology
> about a Python Certification course... anybody have any experience with
> this?
>
> It also says Steve Holden is involved -- is this True? (Steve?)
>
> That's wrong:
>
>>>> "to be" or not "to be"
> 'to be'
>
> You need to wrap it with bool() at least (even without interpreting
> Pythons answer to the duality contradiction of consciousness for
> now ;-))
>
>> but d
onality, I will
> encounter problems.
>
Benedict:
Have you considered running a virtual Windows machine to handle the
specific issues that really require a Windows environment? If the
loading isn't at brutal levels VirtualBox is a very adequate solution,
and of course Python user VMWare
d you mind
teaching me to drive?".
Google for phrases like "web services architecture" and "SOAP WSDL" to
get some idea of how these technologies are put together. This assumes,
of course, that you already possess a fair idea of how the web is put
together.
regards
Steve
-
nter the
stdout-stdin pipelines carrying information between coordinating processes.
If a current task is assuming the prior logging package's behavior and
analysing a process's stdout for messages it arguably needs fixing
anyway, though I agree that breakage of any kind is unfortunate.
r
On 12/14/2010 11:52 PM, JohnWShipman wrote:
> you
> know how us ancient Unix weenies are.
Indeed we do ... ;-)
regards
Steve
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e more accurate to say that if
C.foo is rebound this does not change the binding of the val default
value. "Change the value of foo" could be though to include "mutate a
mutable value", but in that case both C.foo and the method's val
parameter would still be bound to t
On 12/12/2010 2:32 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:
> Am 12.12.2010 19:31, schrieb Steve Holden:
>> > Would you care to quantify how much CPU time that optimization will
>> > typically save for a loop of fair magnitude (say, a billion iterations)?
> The difference is minimal
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