Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

2014-10-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 04:22:21PM -0400, Doug wrote: On 10/04/2014 11:25 AM, John Hasler wrote: Harry Putnam writes: So the unwary reader is led to believe that amd means an architecture different from `pc'. pc doesn't mean an architecture. This is probably not much help to the

Re: systemd-shim to be removed?

2014-10-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 09:06:17PM +0100, Martin Read wrote: As such, I'm not clear how this incident is in any way relevant to the complaint implicit in the remark And all these things are named as systemd alternative in Debian now and as argument that the systemd is not only one possible

Re: Debian policy on alternate init systems

2014-10-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 08:11:56AM -0400, Marty wrote: d-nukem (bold) Could be confused with Duke Nukem! A better name would be system-downgrade -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the

Re: [Scidb-users] Translations

2014-10-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 04:38:32PM +0200, Gregor Cramer wrote: This post is a question to the translators of Scidb. The next version will show championchip info in the player dialog. Momently I Now the open question: is this translation scheme for

Re: Data from a serial port

2014-10-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 03:20:06PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Well, one option would be to install minicom (apt-get will find it for you), set your default serial port to /dev/ttyS0, set it at 9600,7,e,1. Then plug it in and see if tapping W gets you a response. /dev/ttyS0 will look just

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 05:13:48PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware)  time is always UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48:58PM -0400, Philippe Clérié wrote: keyboard] dialog, with the header Keymap to use:. The first selection in my case is American English, and below that keymaps, for just about every other country/language, including British English. What I would like is to That

Re: apt-get errors

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:20:04PM -0500, John Aten wrote: Hi all, Hi. I recently installed Debian Wheezy on an old Dell Inspiron laptop. It's working pretty well, aside from a few hiccups. One of these happens when updating. apt-get update returns the following errors: Err

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:05:30PM -0500, green wrote: Steve Litt wrote at 2014-09-29 20:30 -0500: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:13:10 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: Also, in terms of upgrading a Debian System - Are you aware that prior to each major release, Debian

Re: Why an mp3 is Not a JPEG file

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 01:06:41AM +0200, Johann Klammer wrote: Well, I know that an mp3 is not a JPEG file. But why does it matter to xine (or libav or whatever). This is what I get on stdout when trying to play some random downloaded podcast using xine. [...] [mp3 @ 0xa660260]

Re: apt-get errors

2014-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
Please reply to the list only. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:56:09PM -0500, John Aten wrote: Wow!! How long ago did you last update this laptop? IIRC, that url/mirror is no longer in use. I installed Wheezy on the Dell less than a week ago. I selected debian.uchicago.edu, but there was

Re: Bug#760210: added fluidsynth.service but it fails

2014-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 09:53:35PM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote: [/etc/systemd/system/fluidsynth.service:7] Failed to parse service restart specifier, ig...-always Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full. groan ellipsized?

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to download an ISO for Debian? For me, it's the safest way to

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 03:05:06PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/09/28 7:33 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com: On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk writes: It's a personal choice. If you require a crowd of support as moral justification you're

Re: Data from a serial port

2014-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:13:28PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - I have an Avery Berkel POS [Point Of Sale] scale which I wish to integrate into a POS system. The output is sent to a RS232 port. I do not know how to extract the data. Although this is not a Debian support

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:38:18PM +0200, lee wrote: Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com writes: On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to download an ISO for Debian? For me, it's the safest way to install/upgrade. I have had too many problems

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:19:58PM +0200, lee wrote: Sure is, yet why tell me to make software nobody cares about. Maybe to keep you busy? That won't get systemd out of Debian. LOL, neither will ranting and raving and spreading all sorts of FUD. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 01:48:47PM -0700, koanhead wrote: On 09/25/2014 05:00 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 03:15:36PM -0700, koanhead wrote: can't use. I brought this up once on #offtopic and was told that sysvinit doesn't work on bsds (that's a paraphrase using

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 06:46:49PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 09/27/2014 05:34 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 9/27/14, softwatt softw...@gmx.com wrote: I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

2014-09-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 06:45:26PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 09/27/2014 04:41 PM, softwatt wrote: I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. You may

Re: bash vulnerability jessie

2014-09-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 03:44:21PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: PS - I don't really understand the version differences in apt-cache policy and `bash --version'. apt-cache policy bash is the Debian package version bash --version is the actual upstream bash version. -- If you're not

Re: updating squeeze to wheezy

2014-09-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:25:23PM -0400, John Lindsay wrote: Greeting I have been trying to update my Debian 6 (squeeze) to Debian 7 (wheezy). I have been reading the following URLs and trying to make sense of them with respect to upgrading.

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 02:13:11AM +0800, Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote: But still, since systemd was the default, a tendency in choosing the default plays such a major role that you may even not realize. A systematic research involving default effect is here: Isaac Dinner et. al., 2011, Partitioning

Re: XFCE4 screen resolution stuck too low

2014-09-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 08:48:59PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: On 09/25/2014 08:28 PM, Steve Litt wrote: First, how confident are you that this is *only* in Xfce, and not in LXDE and Openbox and who knows what other window managers? Perhaps it's an X thing, plain and simple. There are still

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 03:15:36PM -0700, koanhead wrote: can't use. I brought this up once on #offtopic and was told that sysvinit doesn't work on bsds (that's a paraphrase using the same words, not a quote) and then ridiculed. It's not that sysvinit doesn't work on bsds, it might, it's

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:07:08PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Tue 23 Sep 2014 at 12:58:26 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: === Depending on glibc === True, it's a single point of failure, but it's made by GNU, whose agenda is less harmful to Linux than the agenda of Redhat. Misinformation.

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 + Andrew M.A. Cater amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk wrote: It woun't kill any detractors to try this and help us find what breaks, to help us to get a Debian system we can all be proud of instead of

Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 03:09:39PM -0700, Mike McClain wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote: Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy? I keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to the backported version, cleared

Re: apt-get update problem

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 06:20:38PM -0700, John Conover wrote: Running apt-get update on one of my machines gives: W: Failed to fetch

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:35:49AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 9/23/2014 8:26 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 + Andrew M.A. Cater amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk wrote: It woun't kill any detractors

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:50:04AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 + Andrew M.A. Cater amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk wrote

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:11:03PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 22 sep 14, 21:17:28, Marty wrote: 1) The goal is modular Debian. Multi-init is the means to achieve it. Being tied to one init system is what caused Debian’s problems, and the replacement did not fix it. A modular

Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian

2014-09-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 09:56:43PM +0400, Reco wrote: In the light of the current discussion, this seems particulary fitting: Social human behaviour experts There is no such thing, not at least by that name. Anthropologists spring to mind, but I think you don't mean it in that sense.

Re: systemd/cgroups changing permissions (was: Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian)

2014-09-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:35:59AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/09/22 5:21 Ansgar Burchardt ans...@43-1.org: Hi Joel, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com writes: (6) systemd and cgroups (at minimum) end up overriding the permissions system. It's bad enough having SELinux and ACLs brought

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:31:57AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Obviously it is important enough to enough users that it continues here. And shutting people up is not going to make the problem go away. It will, however, make users go away. I, for one, am looking at other systems now. And

Re: Booting Debian GNU/kFreeBSD on MacBookPro 8.2

2014-09-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 07:02:39PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: On 09/21/2014 06:54 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 03:43:40PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: I've installed Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 7.6 (wheezy) from a mini.iso CD image on a MacBookPro 8.2. The installation seemed to go

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:13:10AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 9/22/2014 10:55 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:31:57AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Obviously it is important enough to enough users that it continues here. And shutting people up is not going to make

Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote: Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy? I keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to the backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile version. Even when I click on

Re: The way of becoming a DM/DD?

2014-09-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:43:30AM +, lumin wrote: Hi there, I want to take some action to participate in Debian, but I don't know if I am on the right way. I found some related resources here: https://www.debian.org/devel/ and I want to know if I should read it __recursively__. You

Re: Booting Debian GNU/kFreeBSD on MacBookPro 8.2

2014-09-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 03:43:40PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: I've installed Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 7.6 (wheezy) from a mini.iso CD image on a MacBookPro 8.2. The installation seemed to go smoothly, including What was url from where you got the mini.iso CD? -- If you're not careful, the

Re: Bug#762274: ITP: libx11-keybord-perl -- Keyboard support functions for X11

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 03:24:25PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de * Package name: libx11-keybord-perl ^^^ Is the misspelling of keyboard deliberate? If so sorry for the

Bug#762286: apt: no bash-completion for the apt command

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
Package: apt Version: 1.0.9.1 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, There is no bash-completion support for the apt command like there is for apt-get, apt-cache etc. -- Package-specific info: -- /etc/apt/sources.list -- deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free deb

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 07:36:06AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:55:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Erwan David writes: It is also importat to know if it is worth the effort to report

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 01:48:41PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: P.S. please note the 'apt' command is only available since apt 1.0.0 bash completion isn't working for me. Is it for you? bash completion works fine for apt-get and dpkg. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 09:14:08PM +0400, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:59:56 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as a router and the connection would be between clients directly. A

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 04:33:19PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: You're focused on ONE MINISCULE ASPECT of the problem, which is a negligible fraction of the total. As such, your points don't have any real impact on the discussion. Come back when you're: - Not ever getting your food from

Re: Creating a forum for systemd debate

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:02:48PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 9/17/2014 10:48 AM, Slavko wrote: Dňa Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:40:40 +0200 B lazyvi...@gmx.com napísal: If yes, then something is rotten in the state of Denmark ... Alas, poor Slavko ;-) I am sorry, i don't

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 05:04:02PM +0100, J Rowan wrote: I'm aware that nothing can possibly be set in stone yet, but the people responsible for systemd-shim and other compatibility components must have a fair idea whether these are intended as temporary workarounds until 'all' packages are

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:55:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Erwan David writes: It is also importat to know if it is worth the effort to report bugs on software which happen in a systemd-shim or sysvinitcore without any systemd Yes. Provide patches when possible. If reportbug is used

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 01:56:47PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Slavko writes: I was try this some days ago (when latest systemd-shim goes into testing). By my understand of the root of problem, the policykit based users rights depends on libpam-systemd which relies on the libsystemd-login0

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:36:53AM +0300, softwatt wrote: On 09/18/2014 08:50 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: On some systems it has been necessary (during the Squeeze to Wheezy upgrade) to first use only apt-get upgrade after upgrading apt and dpkg and then issuing the full dist-upgrade as final

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 08:52:55AM +0300, softwatt wrote: On 09/18/2014 11:54 PM, Gary Dale wrote: If you didn't do a dist-upgrade since Jessie came out, you could be running the older wheezy packages as part of your system. Not recommended. What about the claim that it's best to do

Re: Choice of init system?

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:15:57PM -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote: Does (or will) the Jessie install offer a choice of systemd or sys5init? Seems like it will offer a choice. How obvious that there is a choice, I have no idea about, you/we will have to wait until Jessie is declared the new Stable.

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:56:14AM +0300, softwatt wrote: But that is not risk-free. What if the thing that's overwriting the file on startup dislikes not being able to write to the file and crashes? At least a culprit is proven. By the way, my solution would fail if the overwriting is

Re: Slight New Sound Problem

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 06:30:13AM -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: T.J. Duchene writes: Pulseaudio has had a long history of being poorly handling certain audio chipset drivers, I'm afraid. You may be able to solve your problem by adjusting the the driver parameters in the file:

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24:31PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: The world has become complicated, and without specialization it does not work, period. That's why you don't build your own home, grow/raise/kill your own food ... That sounds like corporate propaganda to me - i.e. they don't want

Re: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes?

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 04:19:12PM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes? Have you found that having tens of thousands of messages in a single box is dangerous? No, just really slow! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:05:50AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 07:09:22PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: It's *so* easy to grow your own vegetables. No one said it was hard... most of the things you pay someone else to do aren't (though some definitely are). Well

Re: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes?

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:23:03AM -0500, David Champion wrote: * On 19 Sep 2014, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 04:19:12PM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes? Have you found that having tens of thousands of messages in a single box

[scribus] your emailing list

2014-09-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 07:31:30PM -0400, Peter Thorkelson wrote: > I?m not remotely hp enuf to this stuff to be able to > use it. So it's OK for you to have your jargon - but not anyone else? :) Seriously, if there is a term you don't understand then Google it, or ask here. It's only fair to

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:20:46PM +0200, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: Often in the past young people arrived screaming We have the great new thing that will change all, and a lot of great new things were lost in time like tears in rain... Ummm, what has the Macintosh got to do with this? :) --

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Patrice Levesque wrote: roads; red lights, yield signs, school buses and all. Please, what is a yield sign? Is that what the rest of the world would call a stop sign, or a give way sign? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 05:16:32PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: Sorry, I see only that he represented his views, which also happens to coincide with my own. Please, if you have to label someone, you've lost your argument's points from the get-go. :) Ric Also his views were known long before 1995

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 09:00:40AM +0200, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: Sorry? Should we add some dressing to the barbecue? O.K. I am not an English native speaker. Not a good idea, it only causes eye watering smoke to billow everywhere. You are better off adding dressing to the food once it has

Re: Creating a forum for systemd debate

2014-09-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 08:24:07PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700 Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote: Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this mailing list. Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable

Re: mysql command waiting endlessly (lenny)

2014-09-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 04:08:23PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. Hi, [...] Does someone have any idea about what could be the problem, and/or how to fix it? I suggest you'd be better off asking on a mysql support list, but be prepared to be flamed for not providing

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:20:04AM -0400, David L. Craig wrote: On 14Sep16:1203+0100, Martin Read wrote: Debian users, on the other hand, are very much *not* a strongly-identifiable group; there is no formal mechanism whatsoever for being endorsed as an Official Debian User. As such, a

Re: Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 08:15:59PM +0200, lee wrote: Supporting systemd violates Debians' social contract. Hogwash!! Has this bug report already been filed? https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and

Re: Update issue

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 01:22:29AM -0400, Björn Djisktra wrote: I just got one question: how do I update my debian lenny 5.0 (lenny) system? I was searching the information at debian.org, but I don't get it. Please help me with this. Thanks. Put this in your /etc/apt/sources.list deb

Re: Is there any documentation on how to configure the Gnome Desktop environment?

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 04:35:05PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: On 09/11/14 06:14, Brian wrote: On Wed 10 Sep 2014 at 23:35:53 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: In particular, I’m interested in getting Gnome under Jessie to use a terminal program that isn’t gnome-terminal. Activities - Show

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:46:28PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: The printing is along the length of the paper, as opposed to perpendicular. Known as landscape and portrait respectively. How do I change it? Depends on the application you are printing from, but it's usually under

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. I am concerned that, should I simply delete the file, the system will crash or otherwise damage to the boot session, would occur. I very much doubt that any such damage would occur by deleting it, but the following

Re: Query about .xsession-errors file

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:36:42AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: Before seeing the above message, after someone previously saying that deleting the file would not cause any (extra) problems, but would not free up disc space, I deleted the file, then ran Empty Trash Can, but, no disc space was

Re: Brainydeal Receipt Printer

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:23:02AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: On 09/09/2014 02:47 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 07:46:28PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: The printing is along the length of the paper, as opposed to perpendicular. Known as landscape and portrait

Issues upgrading Wheezy -- Jessie (was ... Re: brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:21:57PM +0200, lee wrote: John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com writes: It appears that there is a good chance that the upgrade to Systemd when upgrading to Jessie will not be automatic (or at least not silent). I would be majorly pissed if a distribution upgrade

Re: systemd, again

2014-09-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 02:02:33PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: On the other hand, a non-GNOME wheezy user SHALL not be upgraded to systemd, true. That is contadicted by: https://lists.debian.org/20140907151102.go21...@smurf.noris.de -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you

Re: Bibletime encoding problem

2014-09-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 10:01:41PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: OK I have read the FAQ on the Bibletime website and according to it I You have to install an unicode font like Code2000, Arial Unicode MS or Bitstream Cyberbit to display the special unicode characters. I can find none of the

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 06:29:08PM +0200, lee wrote: lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de writes: how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without first fetching or pulling the remote repo? For now, I'm going with 'git status'. See https://github.com/lee-/git-newer I'd

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 12:18:08PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hi, Zack Weinberg: I think this strategy is positively _necessary_ in order to ensure that systems currently running Wheezy can safely be upgraded to Jessie. There are simply too many wacky configurations out there; it

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 10:27:58PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: it will be the only. The more noise made, the better chance someone will hear. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Silence is golden. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. -- If

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 12:01:54PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2014 21:12:47 +1200 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 10:27:58PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: it will be the only. The more noise made, the better chance someone will hear

Re: FVWM: Special window manager hand holding required?

2014-09-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 10:46:52PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 06:16:55AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 11:49:17 +0200 Bert Geens wrote: However shading and unshading the window after deiconifying returns the application to normal behaviour

Re: exail missing plugin

2014-09-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 12:33:37PM +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: Hi, I just installed exaile 3.3.2-1 for debian testing. But when I try to play my mp3 files it says: no suitable plugins found. What is missing? root@tal:~# apt-cache show exail N: Unable to locate package exail E: No

Re: exail missing plugin

2014-09-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 04:36:25PM +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: Am 06.09.2014 um 13:48 schrieb Chris Bannister: On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 12:33:37PM +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: Hi, I just installed exaile 3.3.2-1 for debian testing. But when I try to play my mp3 files it says

Re: apt-get update during boot

2014-09-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:21:09AM +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: Hi, somehow my system is running an apt-get update or something similar during boot. Whenever I login after boot I can do a apt-get dist-upgrade directly because the package list is already up to date. If I am too fast

Re: Bibletime encoding problem

2014-09-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:56:49AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Johann Spies wrote: With Xiphos currently not available for Testing I want to use Bibletime but it's output is unreadable indicating an encoding problem. I cannot see anywhere in the configuration options of Bibletime where

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 01:13:23PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: If a CoC complaint is made, and the decisionmakers consider the complaint unjustified, the complaint should not be referred elsewhere or escalated. Instead, the decision (complaint considered not justified, no action will be

Re: embrace, extend, extinguish

2014-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 07:22:48AM +, KD wrote: Dan Ritter dsr at randomstring.org writes: Reading: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html systemd's upstream is explicitly interested in taking over all Linux distros, not in the minor sense of

Re: preseed

2014-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 10:09:47AM +0200, Milosz Galazka wrote: W dniu 02/09/2014 09:22, Diogene Laerce napisał(a): And I can't get pass through this step : gzip -d ../cd/install/2.6/initrd.gz | \ cpio --extract --verbose --make-directories --no-absolute-filenames As I systematically get

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 04:35:24PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: Am 02.09.2014 22:18, schrieb Rob Owens: I removed the systemd package from my Jessie system, and it took brasero with it. Brasero depends on gvfs, and gvfs has some trail of dependencies that leads to systemd. I'm

Re: open source or free software?

2014-08-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 06:05:55PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: JSHint is open source and will always stay this way.[2] To be honest, I'm getting tired of these not-true-open-source talks. Out of all things I need to do with JSHint this issue is probably the least important one.[3]

Re: Select provider of libav* libraries

2014-08-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:54:09AM +0200, Bálint Réczey wrote: Hi, 2014-08-27 9:52 GMT+02:00 Matteo F. Vescovi mfvesc...@gmail.com: Hi Team! On 2014-08-27 at 00:36 (CEST), Benjamin Drung wrote: [...] So I am asking you: Should we ship libav or FFmpeg? Can we reach a consensus on

Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide

2014-08-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 12:00:35PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/26/2014 05:21 PM, AW wrote: Info on the think system... http://members.shaw.ca/trishmau/thinksystem/musicman.htm Have fun. I am SO stealing

Re: Loking for TV tuner / media player help

2014-08-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 08:09:00PM -0700, Timothy Danielson wrote: Hi, I am looking to finish installing a card= Happauge 2250 dual tuner into Debian. I would also like to have a comparable Media center software that would allow recording as I did in win media center as wekk as watch live

Re: Help: Ubuntu 12.04LTS/14.04LTS PXE/netboot/preseed - does not initiate installation

2014-08-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 03:58:54PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/08/2014, Snow Leopard snow.leopard@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I stumbled on a problem with Ubuntu installation PXE/netboot/preseed. OS: Ubuntu 12.04LTS/14.04LTS Is this a troll? This reply could certainly be taken as

Re: Can I donate in bitcoin?

2014-08-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:20:20AM -0700, martin f krafft wrote: Let's define a maximum amount, e.g. $5.000 and up until that amount, Would that even get you a cup of coffee these days? (in USA) I presume you mean $5000. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people

Re: [Scid-users] Updating/correcting database your working on...

2014-08-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 01:52:37PM -0700, Philip Cavanagh wrote: OK, something I don't get. You import a file of PGN games, then go in spelling check to correct the database your working on. But when you import another PGN file into your database and then spell check the updated database,

Re: enabling remote X Window sessions

2014-08-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 04:29:49PM -0500, Buchs, Kevin J. wrote: You asked to which version of CentOS I was referring: it is 6.5, the latest version. Honestly, having been involved in computing since the first days of X-Window, I can't think of another case where I observed the X server locked

Re: iso and disk space problem

2014-08-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 07:33:23AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 8/17/14, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: I downloaded an ISO of another Linux distro to check it out - burned is to a CD and booted from it. Runs fine, but a little slowly, so I thought about grml-rescue

Re: Anyone got Dragon Naturally Speaking working under Debian Wheezy?

2014-08-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 02:03:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: I purged my system of Wine sometime back to lessen my tears. We REALLY need a Dragon Killer app for Linux. Ric Check out: FreeSpeech, Julius, Palaver, Simon, and/or Speech-App -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you

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