Re: BigQuery TIMESTAMP and TimestampedValue()

2020-01-23 Thread Sandy Walsh
could break your code. > > Kenn > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 2:45 PM Sandy Walsh wrote: > >> [image: :wave:] Newb here for what will certainly be the first of many >> silly questions ... >> >> I'm working on a dataflow pipeline using python SDK (local runners &g

BigQuery TIMESTAMP and TimestampedValue()

2020-01-20 Thread Sandy Walsh
[image: :wave:] Newb here for what will certainly be the first of many silly questions ... I'm working on a dataflow pipeline using python SDK (local runners currently). It's a bounded source from BigQuery. One column is a TIMESTAMP. I'm trying to assign the timestamp using

[Openstack-operators] StackTach.v3 now in production ...

2015-04-22 Thread Sandy Walsh
(sorry for cross-post, but this is appropriate to both audiences) Hey y'all! For those of you that don't know, StackTach is a notification-based debugging, monitoring and usage tool for OpenStack. We're happy to announce that we've recently rolled StackTach.v3 into production at one of the

[openstack-dev] StackTach.v3 now in production ...

2015-04-22 Thread Sandy Walsh
(sorry for cross-post, but this is appropriate to both audiences) Hey y'all! For those of you that don't know, StackTach is a notification-based debugging, monitoring and usage tool for OpenStack. We're happy to announce that we've recently rolled StackTach.v3 into production at one of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo_messaging]Enabling notifications from nova

2015-04-16 Thread Sandy Walsh
http://www.stacktach.com/about.html#enabling? From: Eduard Matei eduard.ma...@cloudfounders.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 6:04 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo_messaging]Enabling

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users

2015-04-09 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 8:24 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users I also want to point out that what I'd actually rather see is that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users

2015-04-08 Thread Sandy Walsh
Yeah, I don't think anyone would give access to the production rabbitmq directly. We use Yagi [1] to pipe it to AtomHopper [2] for downstream consumption/sanitizing. -S [1] https://github.com/rackerlabs/yagi [2] http://atomhopper.org/ From: Duncan

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users

2015-04-08 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Ryan Brown rybr...@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 9:42 AM The trend in the monitoring space seems to be: 1. Alarms are issued from Metrics as Events. (events can issue alarms too, but conventional alarming is metric based) 2. Multiple events are analyzed to produce

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users

2015-04-08 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:15 PM There's this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cue Hmm, that looks interesting. Will read. I also want to point out that what I'd actually rather see is that all of the services

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users

2015-04-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
Notifications were added for this very purpose. At Rax, we have a downstream consumer (yagi) that routes notifications to an appropriate ATOM/pubsub feed (based on tenant-id). Notifications are only as heavy as you want to make them. The only required fields are event_type and timestamp. ?

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users

2015-04-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
Tooling in general seems to be moving towards richer event data as well. The logging tools (Loggly/Logstash/PaperTrail/zillions of others) are intended to take your unstructured logs and turn them into events, so why not have Heat output structured events that we can present to the user with

Re: [openstack-dev] [stacktach] [oslo] stachtach - kombu - pika ??

2015-03-16 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Sean Dague s...@dague.net Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:09 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [stacktach] [oslo] stachtach - kombu - pika ?? On 03/10/2015 12:56 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: I saw the following on

Re: [openstack-dev] [stacktach] [oslo] stachtach - kombu - pika ??

2015-03-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
No, we're adding this to Yagi first and perhaps Notabene later. We don't need rpc support, so it's too big a change for us to take on. From: gordon chung g...@live.ca Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:58 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [stacktach] [oslo] stachtach - kombu - pika ??

2015-03-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey J, Our (old) notification consumer was using carrot, which is dead but worked. Lately though there have been conflicts with carrot and msgpack, so we had to change. Around the same time, we ran into a bug where we were writing to an unnamed exchange (completely valid, but too easy to do

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo_messaging]Notification listener for nova

2015-03-04 Thread Sandy Walsh
I assume you have notifications enabled in nova.conf? See the Enabling notifications in OpenStack section http://www.stacktach.com/about.html Oh, there are couple more flags that could be useful too: notify_on_state_change=vm_and_task_state notify_on_any_change=True ?

Re: [Openstack] Action notification in nova for delete an instance

2015-03-02 Thread Sandy Walsh
Enable notifications on the compute nodes and you'll get compute.instance.create.end and compute.instance.delete.end notifications for these operations. It sounds like you only have them enabled on the scheduler/api nodes currently. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SystemUsageData

Re: [Openstack] Prometheus and open stack

2015-02-26 Thread Sandy Walsh
?Been keeping an eye on that project, but don't know of anyone running it against OpenStack. Certainly shows promise though. You may want to look at Monasca first though ... a little more tailored to the OpenStack world. The monitoring/logging and big data world seem to be circling on

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging] extending notification MessagingDriver

2015-02-26 Thread Sandy Walsh
Cool, I'm interested in creating some notification drivers outside of olso-messaging as well (for Kafka support and schema-based notifications). Do you have a repo started on this? I'd be keen to have a look. -S From: Boden Russell boden...@gmail.com

[openstack-dev] StackTach.v3 docs ...

2015-02-26 Thread Sandy Walsh
First pass at new docs are available here http://www.stacktach.com/ (API and glossary to follow) Feedback and patches welcome! -Sandy __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe:

Re: [Openstack-operators] [Ceilometer] Real world experience with Ceilometer deployments - Feedback requested

2015-02-12 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey Tim! Thanks for the mention. I'm keen to hear the responses on this as well. I haven't been very active on the ML recently, so perhaps it's a good time for an update (or an intro for those not familiar with StackTach [1]) StackTach started out as a diagnostics tool. It consumes

Re: [Openstack-operators] [Ceilometer] Real world experience with Ceilometer deployments - Feedback requested

2015-02-12 Thread Sandy Walsh
btw if you want to know how StackTach handles billing, here's the salient part from our Hong Kong presentation [1]. Back when we were attempting Ceilometer integration. [1] http://youtu.be/c8zZtSL0t00?t=8m26s ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues

2015-01-30 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Johannes Erdfelt [johan...@erdfelt.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:18 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] SQL Schema Downgrades and Related Issues On Thu, Jan 29, 2015,

Re: [openstack-dev] Notification Schemas ...

2015-01-19 Thread Sandy Walsh
Thanks Jay, good feedback. Comments inline ... From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 10:47 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Notification Schemas ... On 01/18/2015 04:39 PM, Sandy

[openstack-dev] Notification Schemas ...

2015-01-18 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey y'all Eddie Sheffield has pulled together a strawman set of notification schemas for Nova and Glance. Looks like a great start for further discussion. He's going to add JSON-Schema validation next as a form of unit test. Then I guess we have to start thinking about a library to digest

Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-12-08 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Sandy Walsh [sandy.wa...@rackspace.com] Monday, December 01, 2014 9:29 AM From: Duncan Thomas [duncan.tho...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:40 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live? Duncan Thomas On Nov 27, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-12-01 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Duncan Thomas [duncan.tho...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:40 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live? Duncan Thomas On Nov 27, 2014 10:32 PM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: We were thinking each

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] is there a way to simulate thousands or millions of compute nodes?

2014-11-27 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Michael Still [mi...@stillhq.com] Thursday, November 27, 2014 6:57 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] is there a way to simulate thousands or millions of compute nodes? I would say that supporting millions of compute

Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-11-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Eoghan Glynn [egl...@redhat.com] Friday, November 21, 2014 11:03 AM Some problems / options: a. Unlike Python, there is no simple pip install for text files. No version control per se. Basically whatever we pull from the repo. The problem with a git clone is we need to tweak config

Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-11-21 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Eoghan Glynn [egl...@redhat.com] Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:34 PM Some questions/observations inline. Hey y'all, To avoid cross-posting, please inform your -infra / -operations buddies about this post. We've just started thinking about

Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-11-21 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:09 PM On Nov 20, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:51 PM On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa

[openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-11-20 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey y'all, To avoid cross-posting, please inform your -infra / -operations buddies about this post. We've just started thinking about where notification schema files should live and how they should be deployed. Kind of a tricky problem. We could really use your input on this problem ...

Re: [openstack-dev] Where should Schema files live?

2014-11-20 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:51 PM On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: Hey y'all, To avoid cross-posting, please inform your -infra / -operations buddies about this post. We've just started

[openstack-dev] Summit Recap: Notification Schema

2014-11-18 Thread Sandy Walsh
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-notifications The big takeaways: 1. We want the schema to be external so other languages can utilize them. 2. JSON-Schema seems fine, but AVRO has traction in the Big Data world and should be considered. 3. The challenge of have text-file based

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get more feedback from users?

2014-10-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
Nice work Angus ... great idea. Would love to see more of this. -S From: Angus Salkeld [asalk...@mirantis.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 1:32 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] How can we get

[openstack-dev] StackTach users?

2014-10-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey y'all! I'm taking a page from Angus and trying to pull together a list of StackTach users. We're moving quickly on our V3 implementation and I'd like to ensure we're addressing the problems you've faced/are facing with older versions. For example, I know initial setup has been a concern

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Notifications as a contract summit prep

2014-10-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
Thanks ... we'll be sure to address your concerns. And there's the list we've compiled here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics (section 4) -S From: Chris Dent [chd...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:45 PM To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] request_id deprecation strategy question

2014-10-20 Thread Sandy Walsh
Does this mean we're losing request-id's? Will they still appear in the Context objects? And there was the effort to keep consistent request-id's in cross-service requests, will this deprecation affect that? -S From: Steven Hardy [sha...@redhat.com]

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] request_id deprecation strategy question

2014-10-20 Thread Sandy Walsh
20, 2014 at 02:17:54PM +, Sandy Walsh wrote: Does this mean we're losing request-id's? No, it just means the implementation has moved from oslo-incubator[1] to oslo.middleware[2]. The issue I'm highlighting is that those projects using the code now have to update their api-paste.ini files

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-10-14 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:19 PM It might be more appropriate to put it on the cross-project session list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics Done ... thanks! ___

Re: [Openstack] Messaging reliability/durability expectations

2014-10-14 Thread Sandy Walsh
Sort of. Openstack RPC-over-AMQP (oslo.messaging) automatically ack()'s all messages that are received. So, it becomes the responsibility of the sender to retry. For example, the scheduler in Nova does this. However, if the client fails before getting the message, AMQP will automatically

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-10-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Chris Dent [chd...@redhat.com] Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:07 PM On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Sandy Walsh wrote: Good goals. When Producer and Consumer know what to expect, things are good ... I know to find the Instance ID here. When the consumer wants to deal with a notification as a generic

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-10-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Sandy Walsh [sandy.wa...@rackspace.com] Tuesday, October 07, 2014 6:07 PM Haven't had any time to get anything written down (pressing deadlines with StackTach.v3) but open to suggestions. Perhaps we should just add something to the olso.messaging etherpad to find time at the summit

Re: [Question #255075]: End of body / message terminator in .txt archive?

2014-09-28 Thread Sandy Walsh
Question #255075 on mailman in Ubuntu changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman/+question/255075 Status: Answered = Solved Sandy Walsh confirmed that the question is solved: Thanks Mark ... you've been a great help. Will do. Btw found the proper url for the mbox http

[Question #255075]: End of body / message terminator in .txt archive?

2014-09-27 Thread Sandy Walsh
New question #255075 on mailman in Ubuntu: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman/+question/255075 I have the .gz archives for my list, which contains the single .txt file. I'm trying to determine the terminator for the body of each message? I know the blank line after the headers

Re: [Question #255075]: End of body / message terminator in .txt archive?

2014-09-27 Thread Sandy Walsh
Question #255075 on mailman in Ubuntu changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman/+question/255075 Status: Open = Solved Sandy Walsh confirmed that the question is solved: nm, I should have read this closer. There is no EOM marker, just a BOM marker. From marks the start

Re: [Question #255075]: End of body / message terminator in .txt archive?

2014-09-27 Thread Sandy Walsh
Question #255075 on mailman in Ubuntu changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman/+question/255075 Sandy Walsh posted a new comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbox -- You received this question notification because you are a member of Mailman Coders, which is an answer

Re: [Question #255075]: End of body / message terminator in .txt archive?

2014-09-27 Thread Sandy Walsh
Question #255075 on mailman in Ubuntu changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman/+question/255075 Status: Solved = Open Sandy Walsh is still having a problem: Hmm, close ... but it seems leading From in the body of the message is not getting escaped. This is the first

Re: [Question #255075]: End of body / message terminator in .txt archive?

2014-09-27 Thread Sandy Walsh
Question #255075 on mailman in Ubuntu changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman/+question/255075 Sandy Walsh gave more information on the question: Likewise for This is the first body line From here to eternity third This is the forth body line as per http

Re: [Openstack] Billing System Recommendation

2014-09-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
While not a billing system. Rackspace (and some others) use StackTach to collect accurate (and verified) usage data from Nova and Glance. https://github.com/stackforge/stacktach We're getting close to GA for our new StackTach architecture (v3), which we will be demoing at the Paris summit.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] - do we need .start and .end notifications in all cases ?

2014-09-22 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey Phil, (sorry for top-post, web client) There's no firm rule for requiring .start/.end and I think your criteria defines it well. Long running transactions (or multi complex-step transactions). The main motivator behind .start/.end code was .error notifications not getting generated in many

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] - do we need .start and .end notifications in all cases ?

2014-09-22 Thread Sandy Walsh
+1, the high-level code should deal with top-level exceptions and generate .error notifications (though it's a little spotty). Ideally we shouldn't need three events for simple operations. The use of .start/.end vs. logging is a bit of a blurry line. At its heart a notification should provide

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] - do we need .start and .end notifications in all cases ?

2014-09-22 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 11:51 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] - do we need .start and .end notifications in all cases ? On 09/22/2014 07:37 AM, Sandy Walsh wrote

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Setting the bar higher for stackforge

2014-09-15 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Jeremy Stanley [fu...@yuggoth.org] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:06 PM On 2014-09-15 14:36:59 + (+), Sandy Walsh wrote: For our group, the greatest value of StackForge is CLA management. [...] Out of curiosity, why is that a value to your StackForge project(s)? About the only

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Setting the bar higher for stackforge

2014-09-15 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Jeremy Stanley [fu...@yuggoth.org] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:05 PM On 2014-09-15 16:47:13 + (+), Sandy Walsh wrote: It's the Corporate CLA that's needed. The companies that want to contribute have already vetted and signed the CCLA

Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Setting the bar higher for stackforge

2014-09-15 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Jeremy Stanley [fu...@yuggoth.org] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 2:51 PM On 2014-09-15 17:25:48 + (+), Sandy Walsh wrote: Hmm, my understanding was that branches are not accepted without a signed ICLA. Is that not the default case

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-09-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
Jay Pipes - Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:56 PM On 09/03/2014 11:21 AM, Sandy Walsh wrote: On 9/3/2014 11:32 AM, Chris Dent wrote: I took some notes on this a few weeks ago and extracted what seemed to be the two main threads or ideas the were revealed by the conversation that happened

Re: [Openstack] is anyone using zeromq for RPC?

2014-09-06 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] On Sep 5, 2014, at 11:13 PM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] The zmq driver in oslo.messaging, used for internal communication between OpenStack services, has been without a maintainer

Re: [openstack-dev] StackTach.v3 - Screencasts ...

2014-09-05 Thread Sandy Walsh
For those of you playing the home game ... just added four new screencasts to the StackTach.v3 playlist. These are technical deep dives into the code added over the last week or so, with demos. For the more complex topics I spend a little time on the background and rationale. StackTach.v3:

Re: [Openstack] Zabbix

2014-09-05 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Michael Mester (micmeste) [micme...@cisco.com] Guys, Im curious on who is using Zabbix to monitor their openstack deployment. I know there is quite a bit of value to having the single pane of glass as well as the scripting and API capabilities. I have

Re: [Openstack] is anyone using zeromq for RPC?

2014-09-05 Thread Sandy Walsh
From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] The zmq driver in oslo.messaging, used for internal communication between OpenStack services, has been without a maintainer for a significant period of time. It isn’t actively tested, and it isn’t clear whether or not it works. The Oslo team would like

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract (CADF)

2014-09-04 Thread Sandy Walsh
. It's just a strawman, so bend/spindle/mutilate. Look forward to feedback! -S [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NotificationsAndCADF On 9/3/2014 12:30 PM, Sandy Walsh wrote: On 9/3/2014 11:32 AM, Chris Dent wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Sandy Walsh wrote: We're chatting with IBM about CADF

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-09-03 Thread Sandy Walsh
Is there anything slated for the Paris summit around this? I just spent nearly a week parsing Nova notifications and the pain of no schema has overtaken me. We're chatting with IBM about CADF and getting down to specifics on their applicability to notifications. Once I get StackTach.v3 into

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-09-03 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 9/3/2014 11:32 AM, Chris Dent wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Sandy Walsh wrote: We're chatting with IBM about CADF and getting down to specifics on their applicability to notifications. Once I get StackTach.v3 into production I'm keen to get started on revisiting the notification format

[openstack-dev] StackTach.v3 - Screencasts ...

2014-08-22 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey y'all, We've started a screencast series on the StackTach.v3 dev efforts [1]. It's still early-days, so subscribe to the playlist for updates. The videos start with the StackTach/Ceilometer integration presentation at the Hong Kong summit, which is useful for background and motivation but

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-19 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/18/2014 9:27 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Clint Byrum wrote: Here's why folk are questioning Ceilometer: Nova is a set of tools to abstract virtualization implementations. Neutron is a set of tools to abstract SDN/NFV implementations. Cinder is a set of tools to abstract block-device

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-16 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/16/2014 10:09 AM, Chris Dent wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Sandy Walsh wrote: I recently suggested that the Ceilometer API (and integration tests) be separated from the implementation (two repos) so others might plug in a different implementation while maintaining compatibility

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-15 Thread Sandy Walsh
Maybe we need to think about this from a distributed software perspective? * Divide and Conquer? Can we split the topics to create more manageable sub-groups? This way it's not core-vs-non-core but intererested-vs-moderately-interested. (of course, this is much the way the mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-15 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/14/2014 6:42 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 14, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.commailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.commailto:d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Eoghan Glynn

Re: [openstack-dev] Annoucing CloudKitty : an OpenSource Rating-as-a-Service project for OpenStack

2014-08-14 Thread Sandy Walsh
Sounds very interesting. We're currently collecting detailed (and verified) usage information in StackTach and are keen to see what CloudKitty is able to offer. My one wish is that you keep the components as small pip redistributables with low coupling to promote reuse with other projects. Many

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/14/2014 11:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/14/2014 10:04 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote: Depending on the usage needs, I think Google hangouts is a quite useful technology. For many-to-many session its limit of 10 participants can be an

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-11 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/11/2014 4:22 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Hi Eoghan, Thanks for the note below. However, one thing the overview below does not cover is why InfluxDB ( http://influxdb.com/ ) is not being leveraged. Many folks feel that this technology is a viable solution for the problem space discussed

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-11 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/11/2014 5:29 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: On 8/11/2014 4:22 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Hi Eoghan, Thanks for the note below. However, one thing the overview below does not cover is why InfluxDB ( http://influxdb.com/ ) is not being leveraged. Many folks feel that this technology is a viable

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-11 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/11/2014 6:49 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: On 8/11/2014 4:22 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Hi Eoghan, Thanks for the note below. However, one thing the overview below does not cover is why InfluxDB ( http://influxdb.com/ ) is not being leveraged. Many folks feel that this technology is a viable

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Generate Event or Notification in Ceilometer

2014-07-30 Thread Sandy Walsh
If all you want to do is publish a notification you can use oslo.messaging directly. Or, for something lighter weight, we have Notabene, which is a small wrapper on Kombu. An example of how our notification simulator/generator uses it is available here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-07-16 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 7/11/2014 6:08 AM, Chris Dent wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: The data format that Ironic will send was part of the spec proposed and could have been reviewed. I think there's still time to change it tho, if you have a better format talk to Haomeng which is the guys

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-07-15 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 7/15/2014 3:51 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 10:04 +0100, Chris Dent wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: The data format that Ironic will send was part of the spec proposed and could have been reviewed. I think there's still time to change it tho, if

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-07-11 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 7/10/2014 12:10 PM, Chris Dent wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Julien Danjou wrote: My initial plan was to leverage a library like voluptuous to do schema based validation on the sender side. That would allow for receiver to introspect schema and know the data structure to expect. I didn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-07-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 7/10/2014 5:52 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: TL;DR: do we need to stabilize notifications behind a versioned and discoverable contract? Thanks for dusting this off. Versioning and published schemas for notifications are important to the StackTach team. It would be nice to get this

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-07-10 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 7/10/2014 2:59 PM, Daniel Dyer wrote: From my perspective, the requirement is to be able to have a consistent and predictable format for notifications that are being sent from all services. This means: 1. a set of required fields that all events contain and have consistent meaning 2. a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Openstack and SQLAlchemy

2014-06-30 Thread Sandy Walsh
woot! From: Mike Bayer [mba...@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 1:56 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Openstack and SQLAlchemy Hi all - For those who don't know me, I'm Mike

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][messaging] Further improvements and refactoring

2014-06-27 Thread Sandy Walsh
Something to consider is the create the queue in advance feature is done for notifications, so we don't drop important messages on the floor by having an Exchange with no associated Queue. For RPC operations, this may not be required (we assume the service is available). If this check is truly

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][messaging] Further improvements and refactoring

2014-06-27 Thread Sandy Walsh
should be able to disable it for RPC in oslo.messaging. (I say should because I'm not positive some aspect of openstack doesn't depend on the queue existing. Thinking about the scheduler mostly) -S On 06/27/2014 05:16 PM, Sandy Walsh wrote: Something to consider is the create the queue in advance

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Why is there a 'None' task_state between 'SCHEDULING' 'BLOCK_DEVICE_MAPPING'?

2014-06-26 Thread Sandy Walsh
Nice ... that's always bugged me. From: wu jiang [win...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:30 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Why is there a 'None' task_state between 'SCHEDULING'

Re: [openstack-dev] [taskflow] Recommendations for the granularity of tasks and their stickiness to workers

2014-06-17 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 6/17/2014 7:04 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Folks, A question for the taskflow ninjas. Any thoughts on best practice WRT $subject? Specifically I have in mind this ceilometer review[1] which adopts the approach of using very fine-grained tasks (at the level of an individual alarm

Re: [Openstack] [metering] Considerations and Roadmap in Ceilometer (or other component) for Financial Management

2014-06-02 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hi Lee, At Rackspace we use StackTach to gather our billing/usage information (with verification and reconciliation). We are heavy into our v3 development currently. While we haven't addressed the financial aspects of billing it might be something worth talking about, though it's a little

Re: [Openstack] Getting eventing information

2014-05-21 Thread Sandy Walsh
Side note: many groups are using StackTach to collect and persist the events and then just accessing the StackTach database directly to generate their usage/performance reports. From: Narayanan, Krishnaprasad [naray...@uni-mainz.de] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014

Re: [Openstack] Getting eventing information

2014-05-20 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 5/20/2014 7:32 AM, Narayanan, Krishnaprasad wrote: Hallo all, In our project, I need information about the VM related operations such as creation, deletion, resizing, migration, reboot, etc. In one of my earlier emails dated on 16th April 2014, I received replies from the forum about the

Re: [openstack-dev] Monitoring as a Service

2014-05-06 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 5/6/2014 10:04 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: John Dickinson wrote: One of the advantages of the program concept within OpenStack is that separate code projects with complementary goals can be managed under the same program without needing to be the same codebase. The most obvious example

Re: [openstack-dev] Monitoring as a Service

2014-05-06 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 5/6/2014 1:48 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sandy Walsh wrote: I'd be curious to know more what managed means in this situation? Is the core project expected to allocate time in the IRC meeting to the concerns of these adjacent projects? What if the core project doesn't agree

Re: [openstack-dev] How to re-compile Devstack Code

2014-04-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
Also, I find setting this in my localrc/local.conf helps debugging: # get an actual log file vs. screen scrollback LOGFILE=/opt/stack/logs/stack.sh.log # gimme all the info VERBOSE=True # don't pull from git every time I run stack.sh RECLONE=False # make the logs readable LOG_COLOR=False

Re: [Openstack] VM events from OpenStack

2014-04-16 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hi! Nova can publish notifications on the queue whenever anything important happens. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SystemUsageData Tools like YAGI can consume these events and send them to downstream systems. Or you could use something like StackTach to consume them and expose them via a

Re: [openstack-dev] Payload within RabbitMQ messages for Nova related exchanges

2014-04-15 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 04/15/2014 10:07 AM, George Monday wrote: Hey there, I've got a quick question about the RabbitMQ exchanges. We are writing listeners for the RabbitMQ exchanges. The basic information about the tasks like compute.instance.create.[start|stop] etc. as stored in the 'payload' attribute

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] PTL candidacy

2014-04-02 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 04/02/2014 05:47 PM, Gordon Chung wrote: I'd like to announce my candidacy for PTL of Ceilometer. Woot! ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] ordering of notification 'events' in oslo.messaging

2014-03-31 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 03/31/2014 10:55 AM, Gordon Sim wrote: I believe that ordering of notifications at different levels is not guaranteed when receiving those notifications using a notification listener in olso.messaging. I.e. with something like: notifier = notifier.Notifier(get_transport(CONF),

[Yahoo-eng-team] [Bug 1296839] [NEW] xen boot from volume attempts resize

2014-03-24 Thread Sandy Walsh
Public bug reported: When attempting a boot-from-volume with a volume size that doesn't match the disk size the compute manager will attempt to resize the volume (which fails). It's fine to press on with the given size. ** Affects: nova Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi][TC] Withdraw graduation request

2014-03-20 Thread Sandy Walsh
Big +1 From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:18 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi][TC] Withdraw graduation request This is a very mature stance and well-written email. Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging] mongodb notification driver

2014-03-12 Thread Sandy Walsh
You may want to consider StackTach for troubleshooting (that's what it was initially created for) https://github.com/rackerlabs/stacktach It will consume and record the events as well as give you a gui and cmdline tools for tracing calls by server, request_id, event type, etc. Ping me if you

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] RFC - using Gerrit for Nova Blueprint review approval

2014-03-07 Thread Sandy Walsh
Yep, great idea. Do it. On 03/07/2014 02:53 AM, Chris Behrens wrote: On Mar 6, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: […] I think a dedicated git repo for this makes sense. openstack/nova-blueprints or something, or openstack/nova-proposals if we want to be a bit less

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Crack at a Real life workflow

2014-03-06 Thread Sandy Walsh
DSL's are tricky beasts. On one hand I like giving a tool to non-developers so they can do their jobs, but I always cringe when the DSL reinvents the wheel for basic stuff (compound assignment expressions, conditionals, etc). YAML isn't really a DSL per se, in the sense that it has no language

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Crack at a Real life workflow

2014-03-06 Thread Sandy Walsh
language implement the basics (expressions, assignment...) and then building the domain ontop of that. Just seems more natural IMHO, and is similar to what linq (in c#) has done. My 3 cents. Sent from my really tiny device... On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:33 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa

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