Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Thomas Hood
On 7/26/06, Alfons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could, even if the digital form of the signal is OK. Your card may apply digital gain at the max setting (i.e. to allow you to boost very weak signals). Ah.. that's interesting. I take it that this is something internal to the hardware

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Alfons Adriaensen
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:35:34AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: Did you check the levels of your soundcard's mixer ? The spectrum shows a signal that's rather badly distorted... The levels in alsamixer are all set to 100 -- can this cause clipping, It could, even if the digital form of the

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Thomas Hood
On 7/26/06, James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could, even if the digital form of the signal is OK. Your card may apply digital gain at the max setting (i.e. to allow you to boost very weak signals). Ah.. that's interesting. I take it that this is something internal to

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Alfons Adriaensen
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 12:02:31PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: On 7/26/06, Alfons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could, even if the digital form of the signal is OK. Your card may apply digital gain at the max setting (i.e. to allow you to boost very weak signals). Ah.. that's

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Alfons Adriaensen
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 02:04:24PM +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Alfons Adriaensen wrote: To summarize, aliasing is the result of the _sampled_ nature of a digital signal, not of its numerical (digital) form. That is true for your particular example, but aliasing artifacts

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Thomas Hood
On 7/26/06, James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look at the alc850 datasheet, it will tell you the dB gain range each control has. Hmm.. As far as I can tell from the datasheet ( ftp://61.56.86.122/pc/ac97/alc850/ALC850_DataSheet_1.4.pdf ) the volume controls are in two

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Thomas Hood
On 7/26/06, Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/26/06, James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look at the alc850 datasheet, it will tell you the dB gain range each control has. Hmm.. As far as I can tell from the datasheet (

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Thomas Hood wrote: I'm using a Realtek ALC850 http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/products1-2.aspx?modelid=2003101 on an http://www.asrock.com/PRODUCT/775Twins-HDTV.htm, so I guess it's not the STAC9708/11 issue. Incidently noise levels on this thing are appalling -- you can hear noise just

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Thomas Hood wrote: On 7/26/06, Alfons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could, even if the digital form of the signal is OK. Your card may apply digital gain at the max setting (i.e. to allow you to boost very weak signals). Ah.. that's interesting. I take it that this is

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Thomas Hood wrote: Did you check the levels of your soundcard's mixer ? The spectrum shows a signal that's rather badly distorted... The levels in alsamixer are all set to 100 -- can this cause clipping, and if so, would this account for the aliasing? I understand that

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Alfons Adriaensen
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 07:41:54AM -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: What makes you think that there is aliasing? Clearly visible in the spectograms referred to in the original message. -- FA Lascia la spina, cogli la rosa. -

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Thomas Hood wrote: I'm using a Realtek ALC850 http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/products1-2.aspx?modelid=2003101 on an http://www.asrock.com/PRODUCT/775Twins-HDTV.htm, so I guess it's not the STAC9708/11 issue. Incidently noise levels on this thing are appalling -- you

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Thomas Hood
On 7/26/06, Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just the analog but the whole electronics. designing a board so that all the radiation from all of the other parts of the computer do not pollute the sound signal is tough and is far more than just the chip. That may be the case, but all the

Re: [Alsa-user] can't compile alsa-driver with 2.6.18-rc1

2006-07-26 Thread Clemens Ladisch
George Nychis wrote: Clemens Ladisch wrote: Please try adding quotes around the four KBUILD_BASENAME definitions in alsa-driver/Rules.make, like this: ... -DKBUILD_BASENAME=\$(subst ...)\ $... hmmm, I seem to get different errors: Okay, I just changed it to use the same mechanism

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-dummy sound driver

2006-07-26 Thread csarid
Bill,Thanks, I'll try that and see what happensThanks again!Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, csarid wrote: Bill, Thanks for the suggestions. I did look and search through the /lib/modules directory and their was nothing with snd-... at all The distribution is

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-dummy sound driver

2006-07-26 Thread csarid
Ok Bill... here it goes.. the reason for needing the dummy sound driver is that I am trying to use the gnomemeeting application without sound. however, the --disable-sound option does not seem to work and googling I found that most people seem to use the snd-dummy driver to get around this

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-dummy sound driver

2006-07-26 Thread csarid
Lee,Thanks. Unfortunately, I am stuck with this version for a while. Thanks again!Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 11:36 -0700, csarid wrote: Bill, Thanks for the suggestions. I did look and search through the /lib/modules directory and their was nothing with

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-dummy sound driver

2006-07-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, csarid wrote: Bill, Thanks for the suggestions. I did look and search through the /lib/modules directory and their was nothing with snd-... at all The distribution is RedHat 3 Enterprise. Weird. Anyway, download the latest alsa, compile it and install it.

[Alsa-user] Need help setting up .asoundrc

2006-07-26 Thread Phil
Hello, I have an IBM T41 laptop with an Intel8x0 built-in sound card that generally works fine under alsa. I have been trying very hard to get it to play friendly with mythTV and my Plextor PX-TV402U-NA. The developer of the Plextor Linux driver wrote me this: *QUOTE*--- From

Re: [Alsa-user] Need help setting up .asoundrc

2006-07-26 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 16:13 -0700, Phil wrote: The poor configuration above is what I came up with after reading the .asoundrc guide. Which .asoundrc guide? I wouldn't be attempting to create said file if it worked automatically. Given that sound is reaching the computer from the device,

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Bill Unruh wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Thomas Hood wrote: I'm using a Realtek ALC850 http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/products1-2.aspx?modelid=2003101 on an http://www.asrock.com/PRODUCT/775Twins-HDTV.htm, so I guess it's not the STAC9708/11 issue. Incidently noise levels on this

Re: [Alsa-user] Aliasing due to resampling?

2006-07-26 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 16:08 +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: From what I can tell, the cost of improving the mic input on motherboards would be a zero cost item in hardware terms, but manufacturers just don't seem to care, and therefore don't spend any time even trying to improve it.

Re: [Alsa-user] Need help setting up .asoundrc

2006-07-26 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 16:46 -0700, Phil wrote: Lee Revell wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 16:13 -0700, Phil wrote: The poor configuration above is what I came up with after reading the .asoundrc guide. Which .asoundrc guide? http://alsa.opensrc.org/.asoundrc I wouldn't be

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-dummy sound driver

2006-07-26 Thread csarid
Bill,Thanks for the suggestions. I did look and search through the /lib/modules directory and their was nothing with snd-... at all The distribution is RedHat 3 Enterprise.Thanks!Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, csarid wrote: Is there a particular entry to look for

Re: [Alsa-user] Need help setting up .asoundrc

2006-07-26 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 15:01 -0700, Phil wrote: I have verified that the capture device works under Windows. When running under MythTV, I can get some relevant audio (mono, 8000Hz) via $ aplay /dev/audio1. That is not how ALSA works. You use device names like hw:0 or hw:1, not /dev nodes.