Tobin,
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Tobin Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Before you go off and get rid of your board, there are a number of things
> to look at first. According to an earlier post, it looked as though the
> audio may have been disabled in bios.
>
Checked that - all OK.
Another possibility is that it worked before because the driver didn't
> even know about the codec (let alone the board). When I looked at the tip
> source, the only motherboard that matched the subdevice id for your system
> was a 945 (ICH7/Sigmatel 9221). Based on that, and the the way my board
> currently works (DP35DP - very similar), I am starting to think that it may
> be a problem with Ubuntu's alsa drivers (wouldn't be a first time, believe
> me).
>
I've tried building an Ubuntu 8.04 from scratch but that doesn't work. I'll
also try it with the 7.10 desktop I think I originally had it working with.
Haven't done that yet so can't report on it... standby for an update on
that.
> First thing to try, as suggested elsewhere, try removing your tuner card
> temporarily. If audio comes up, then we have found the conflict.
>
Yes did that, same result.
If not, try "acpi=off".
>
Also this, no luck
> Lastly, you can try downloading a daily snapshot from
> ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/alsa/snapshot/driver/ and building it with
> "./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-debug=detect". Once you build
> and install it, type "lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print $1}'|xargs rmmod" to
> remove all sound modules, type "dmesg -c" to clear the dmesg log, then
> "modprobe snd_hda_intel" to load the new modules. If you still don't get
> audio, type dmesg to see the latest output and email that info here.
>
OK built 20080524 from the above site (actually from
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/ because there's
a 'README' there that says it's moved...)
Used:
./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-debug=detect
make
sudo make install
Then removed all the 'snd' modules with rmmod (couldn't use your above
command - it required reverse dependency removal of the modules so I just
did it manually - anyone written a script or is there an option to rmmod
that ignores dependencies?)
and finally
dmesg -c
modprobe snd-hda-intel
No go.
Log contents folow
*************************
dmesg:
[14834.424775] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) ->
IRQ 23
[14834.424799] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1b.0 to 64
[14834.495425] ALSA
/build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-server/sound/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1892:
hda-intel: no codecs found!
[14834.495477] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1b.0 disabled
*************************
tail /var/log/messages :
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy kernel: [14834.424775] ACPI: PCI Interrupt
0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy kernel: [14834.495477] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device
0000:00:1b.0 disabled
Also tail /var/log/syslog is a little more telling (maybe!):
May 25 13:57:49 snoopy NetworkManager: <debug> [1211687869.615123]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_oss_sequencer_0').
May 25 13:57:49 snoopy NetworkManager: <debug> [1211687869.618245]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_oss_sequencer').
May 25 13:58:36 snoopy NetworkManager: <debug> [1211687916.647991]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_sequencer').
May 25 13:58:50 snoopy NetworkManager: <debug> [1211687930.303908]
nm_hal_device_removed(): Device removed (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_timer').
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy NetworkManager: <debug> [1211687980.458993]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_timer').
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy NetworkManager: <debug> [1211687980.470466]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_alsa_sequencer').
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy kernel: [14834.424775] ACPI: PCI Interrupt
0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy kernel: [14834.424799] PCI: Setting latency timer of
device 0000:00:1b.0 to 64
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy NetworkManager: <debug> [1211687980.486231]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_oss_sequencer').
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy NetworkManager: <debug> [1211687980.495521]
nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_oss_sequencer_0').
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy kernel: [14834.495425] ALSA
/build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-server/sound/alsa-driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1892:
hda-intel: no codecs found!
May 25 13:59:40 snoopy kernel: [14834.495477] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device
0000:00:1b.0 disabled
Curious to know why the hal is getting involved...
So that's where we are...
Peter
>
>
> Tobin
>
>
> On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 11:24 +1000, Peter Westley wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
> On Friday 23 May 2008 00:27, Peter Westley wrote:
> > Nigel,
> >
> > Thanks again for putting so much time into my problem! See comments
> inline.
> >
> > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Nigel Henry <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 21 May 2008 12:35, you wrote:
> > > > Update:
> > > >
> > > > I removed the DVB-T card from the system and rebooted - same problem.
> > > > System sees the card but the ALSA system doesn't recognise the codec
> > > >
> > > > <sigh> still looking.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > >
> > > Hi Peter. First of all it would be fair to say that there are horrible
> > > problems with hda intel based cards, as they are setup differently on
> the
> > > mobos of PC's/Laptops, depending on which machine you have. Laptops are
> > > the worst, as your only alternative if you can't get the onboard hda
> > > intel card to produce sounds, is to buy a USB, or pcmcia card. At least
> > > with a PC, and aspare PCI slot you can buy a cheap, known Alsa
> supported
> > > card, and get the sounds working.
> > >
> > > That said, you had sounds working when you had your Gutsy Gibbon
> > > installed, so
> > > at least you know the sounds worked with the hda intel card.
> > >
> > > You say that your not sure if the sounds stopped after installing the
> > > server
> > > version of Ubuntu GG, or after you'd installed HH 8.04. I spent a bit
> of
> > > time
> > > at the Ubuntu site looking at the server version, and the kernel. It
> did
> > > say
> > > the server kernel was somewhat different, but didn't say too much about
> > > the differences. I don't know if there is some specific reason that you
> > > need the
> > > server kernel, but if not it may be worth installing the generic one,
> and
> > > seeing if the sounds work ok with it.
> > >
> > > I'm a bit lost. Alsaconf is now deprecated, and no longer exists on GG.
> > > You used to be able to run that command as root, and it would search
> for
> > > soundcards, and if found set them up. I can't find anything on GG to
> > > reconfigure the soundcard. All that running "asoundconf list " (no
> double
> > > quotes)shows is soundcards that are already configured.
> > >
> > > There are a couple of things you could try to perhaps identify the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > First open konsole/terminal, and enter the following text.
> > > sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
> > > This should capture any problems when running the following stuff.
> > >
> > > Now open another instance of konsole/terminal, and run the following
> > > command.
> > > sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
> > > Followed by /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
> > > Any messages on the konsole running tail -f?
> >
> > I get:
> > $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
> > * Shutting down
> > ALSA... *
> warning:
> > 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1497: No
> > soundcards found...'...
> [fail]
> >
> > Which is to be expected I guess...
> >
> > Then:
> > $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
> > * Setting up ALSA...
> [
> > OK ]
> >
> > and in /var/log/messgaes:
> > May 22 23:04:38 snoopy kernel: [97942.954373] ACPI: PCI Interrupt
> > 0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
> > May 22 23:04:39 snoopy kernel: [97943.034189] ACPI: PCI interrupt for
> > device 0000:00:1b.0 disabled
> >
> > Which is similar to what goes in dmesg when the system boots:
> > >From demsg:
> >
> > [ 40.254047] ALSA /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu
> > -modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-server/sound/alsa
> > -driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1892:
> > hda-intel: no codecs found!
> > [ 40.254089] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1b.0 disabled
> >
> > > Also check out cat /proc/asound/cards, to see if any cards have
> appeared.
> > > if
> > > so we may be getting somewhere, but if not try the next suggestion, as
> > > below.
> >
> > Nothing appeared
> >
> > Leaving the konsole running tail -f open, on the other konsole do.
> >
> > > rmmod snd-hda-intel
> > > This may need to be run as.
> > > modprobe -r snd-hda-intel, if the rmmod command fails.
> > >
> > > Now run.
> > > modprobe snd-hda-intel
> > >
> > > Check again any output from the other konsole running tail -f, and also
> > > run.
> > > cat /proc/asound/cards, which may show detected cards.
> >
> > Nothing from those commands in /var/log/messages
> >
> > Whatever output you get on the konsole/terminal that is running tail
> >
> > > -f /var/log/messages, please post it to myself, and to the alsa-user
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Personally, and if you have a spare PCI slot, I'd have a look on E-bay
> > > for an
> > > Audigy2 soundblaster card (emu10k1), which is the one I have. I think
> > > they can be picked up quite cheaply, and I know that this card works.
> > > Just a suggestion.
> >
> > That's exactly what I would have done ages ago but sadly my stupid
> > motherboard has only one PCI slot and that has the DVB-T card in it so
> > sadly not an option.
> >
> > I will post to the alsa-dev group and see what they have to say.
> >
> > Peter
>
>
> Hi Peter. Sorry none of my suggestions produced any positive results.
>
> As regards your mobo with only one PCI slot. That has to be quite pathetic.
> You used to be able to get mobo's with 5 PCI slots, and I've been hunting
> for
> a new atx mobo, to put in a case that I've had for some time. I have found
> an
> atx one with 3 PCI slots, and a couple pf PCI express ones, and am waiting
> for it to arrive (Asus M2N-X Plus). Not too expensive 52.50 euros. It too
> may
> have a dodgy onboard soundcard. It will be interesting to see if the sound
> works when it arrives.
>
> Yes, do post to the alsa-development list. I hope someone there can help
> you
> to get the sounds back up and running.
>
> Nigel.
>
>
> Nigel,
>
> The mobo was was my own stupid fault - I bought it in a hurry and didn't
> research properly! It does have two PCIe slots but there's precious little
> in PCIe that Linux seems to support at all yet.
>
> I will probably go the mobo replacement path eventually (then my 15yo son
> can have this one - he's been bugging me for one for ages!)
>
> I am going to try one more thing and that is to install a fresh Ubuntu
> desktop onto an external drive and just check that the sound comes up
> there...
>
> Peter
>
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