Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sat, 1 Feb 2014 15:38:58 -0800 (PST), ChaosEsque Team a écrit : > I feel the best way would be for alsa perhaps to be able to set what > /dev/dsp is in asound rc file (the one in /etc) > > Like how you can configure everything else via that, plus mix, move > etc everything around. > > What i

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sat, 1 Feb 2014 16:40:15 -0800 (PST), ChaosEsque Team a écrit : > I'd like to apologize to you for being rude, you did help me. > > The looming threat of systemd taking over debian, my distro of > choice, The problem with systemd at that time is Gnome. You can install Gnome without systemd,

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
I'd like to apologize to you for being rude, you did help me. The looming threat of systemd taking over debian, my distro of choice, and being forced on us all has caused my mood to be sour this past week or more. I don't like drastic change, I don't like all-encompassing solutions (unless we're

[Alsa-user] snd_usb_audio: distorted capture using M-Audio Fast Track Pro

2014-02-01 Thread Lewis Pike
I have an M-Audio Fast Track Pro which I would to like to use for audio capture. I've been testing audio capture using the following command: $ arecord -f dat -D hw:0,1 | aplay -f dat I am finding that ALSA has some issues a far as the Fast Track Pro is concerned: - Roughly 80% of the time, aud

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread A. C. Censi
Be served: http://www.4front-tech.com/oss.html Binaries from http://www.4front-tech.com/download.cgi Source code on http://developer.opensound.com/ ACC On Saturday, February 1, 2014, jon wrote: > > > > It is absolute bullshit that /dev/dsp doe not mix. Bullshit. It's > > > been bullshit for

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread jon
> > It is absolute bullshit that /dev/dsp doe not mix. Bullshit. It's > > been bullshit for 10 years. I also agree (though in much more polite terms) that any emulation of /dev/dsp should (if possible, mix). It would be great if distributions had a /dev/dsp device node that resulted in mixed aud

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
Fine, I'll not be rude. In the context of dsp, the file should not be lockable (it should silently "fail": ie even if a program thinks it locked that virtual file it did not, the program shouldn't be informed of this as it might itself fail if it failed to "lock" the file). /dev/dsp should exi

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
I feel the best way would be for alsa perhaps to be able to set what /dev/dsp is in asound rc file (the one in /etc) Like how you can configure everything else via that, plus mix, move etc everything around. What is your opinion. On Sat, 2/1/14, Dom

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:47:53 -0800 (PST), ChaosEsque Team a écrit : > The unix way is that "everything is a file". /dev/dsp follows this > idea. You write your output to the file, and there you go. > The BSDs follow this. It's thought of the "OSS" way because OSS got > there first and got to be th

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
The version of /dev/dsp? What the fuck are you smoking, idiot. Also your argument is inapplicable. The BSDs do it the correct way that makes sence. /dev/dsp mixes. You can send your data to that "file" and everything works. See, computer files are a metaphor, a convenient way of thinking of thing

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
Nope, sorry, that does not make any sense in the context of outputting sound. You lose. Sorry boy. I KNEW you were going to come out with THAT bullshit. The BSDs, which are pure unix, don't see it that way when WRITING TO A DEVICE INTERFACE! It mixes. It is the correct way to do it. The way ALS

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
And writing to a file should block other applications from writing to the same file at the same time. Otherwise how do you know which version of the file is correct. On Feb 1, 2014 9:50 PM, "ChaosEsque Team" wrote: > The unix way is that "everything is a file". /dev/dsp follows this idea. > You w

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
The unix way is that "everything is a file". /dev/dsp follows this idea. You write your output to the file, and there you go. The BSDs follow this. It's thought of the "OSS" way because OSS got there first and got to be the DigitalSignalProcessor , rather than some other pack of drivers. When Alsa

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
What you think should be the case doesn't really matter. The difference between Linux and other *nix systems is that generally they use OSS as they're standard sound framework, while Linux users alsa. If the applications you use require OSS you are free to use OSS on your installation, but expectin

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
Thanks for the tip. I remember using that years and years ago, It looks like it would work. It's a shame that there isn't a way to configure alsa to do something like that by default. A friend of mine quit using linux and went to mac because of these sound issues. He had used it for a few years

Re: [Alsa-user] Arcam rpac, config help

2014-02-01 Thread Vince Ur
Hi all, DMESG: 3:1:1: usb_set_interface failed [ 147.748299] e1000e :01:00.0: Disabling ASPM L0s L1 [ 147.748466] e1000e :01:00.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X [ 681.672258] usb 5-1: USB disconnect, device number 2 [ 693.256080] usb 5-1: new full-speed USB device number 3 using uhci_hcd [ 693

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
Alsa seems to have mixing on the alsa level, like any respectable unix sound implementation. I open mutiple programs that use sound, they all work together fine. Untill I open an old program. The BSDs have always have sound mixing in OSS and anything else. Alsa should have such too. --