Le Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:31:33 +0300,
Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#include hallo.h
* Takashi Iwai [Thu, Jul 27 2006, 01:12:34PM]:
At Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:40:12 -0400,
Lee Revell wrote:
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 20:30 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
Hello,
I try to make my 5.1 speaker set work properly on an SB Live! Player
with Alsa from kernel 2.6.17.
Eduard Bloch wrote:
...
Honnestly, the current set of mixer controls is cumbersome. $user can
hardly understand what all the controls are good for, and mixer software
is not user-friendly either. The Live! mixer from Creative gives you a
joystick control where you can move the marker around
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear
frontend/backend infrastructure, an ultimate solution:
- access to all backend settings is exported with consistent, fixed
names
(keywords)
- a wrapper in the
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
Could I get a copy of that patch?
Check the alsa-devel archive.
Honnestly, the current set of mixer controls is cumbersome. $user can
hardly understand what all the controls are good for, and mixer
software is not user-friendly either.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear
frontend/backend infrastructure, an ultimate solution:
- access to all backend settings is
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 21:48 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
If you, the developers, have already written the driver and know
how it works, what hardware specs do you need ?
It's the documentation issue and/or HAL issue. The guy expresses my
thoughts very well.
I'm glad yet another end user
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:52:55 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 21:48 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
If you, the developers, have already written the driver and know
how it works, what hardware specs do you need ?
It's the documentation issue and/or HAL
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear
frontend/backend infrastructure, an ultimate
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
Yes, I talk about useability which
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
What I know, is that when I bought M-Audio Revoluion 7.1 - fully
supported
by ALSA, I couldn't make capture loopback work - documentation said
nothing
on it.
Blah blah blah, same old inflammatory complaints, no offer to help...
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:49:16 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
What I know, is that when I bought M-Audio Revoluion 7.1 - fully
supported
by ALSA, I couldn't make capture loopback work - documentation said
nothing
on
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
Did you help the guy with M-Audio Revolution 5.1 ?
I DID tell him everything I knew based on my M-Audio Revolution 7.1,
but, apparently, the cards are different.
Are you satisfied that yet another ALSA end user stepped on the same
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
My logic is simple:
* if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've
tested it - otherwise you are simply irresponsible.
You're assuming that ALSA developers have access to every sound card
that ALSA supports which
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:10:36 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
Did you help the guy with M-Audio Revolution 5.1 ?
I DID tell him everything I knew based on my M-Audio Revolution 7.1,
but, apparently, the cards are
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
My logic is simple:
* if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've
tested it - otherwise you are simply irresponsible.
You're
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:38:03 +0300
Sergei Steshenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
My logic is simple:
* if you are saying that a feature is supported, this
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
Do you, the developers, test the card before announcing it as
supported ?
No, the ALSA developers rely on feedback from users to determine what is
supported. The ALSA developers only have access to a small fraction of
the supported
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:47 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
It should be 'why', not 'what' in what the controls for each tested
feature
You don't seem to understand that vendors can customize the hardware
such that the same mixer controls do different things on different
devices. The only
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:47:37 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
Do you, the developers, test the card before announcing it as
supported ?
No, the ALSA developers rely on feedback from users to determine what is
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:54 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
Then what was exactly the report claiming that M-Audio Revolution 5.1
indeed worked ?
Where can end users find in order to read it ans assess its
credibility ?
That is, to see whether the end user indeed checked the featured
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:52:08 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:47 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
It should be 'why', not 'what' in what the controls for each tested
feature
You don't seem to understand that vendors can customize the hardware
such
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
My logic is simple:
* if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've
tested it - otherwise you
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
My logic is simple:
* if you
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
At Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:40:12 -0400,
Lee Revell wrote:
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 20:30 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
Hello,
I try to make my 5.1 speaker set work properly on an SB Live! Player
with Alsa from kernel 2.6.17. Most things work well, but there is
something that feels like a bug
Hello,
I try to make my 5.1 speaker set work properly on an SB Live! Player
with Alsa from kernel 2.6.17. Most things work well, but there is
something that feels like a bug or inconsistency in user interface:
The volume for rear speakers, center, bass speakers seem to behave
indepently from any
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 20:30 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
Hello,
I try to make my 5.1 speaker set work properly on an SB Live! Player
with Alsa from kernel 2.6.17. Most things work well, but there is
something that feels like a bug or inconsistency in user interface:
The volume for rear
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