Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes(Internet mail)

2021-03-11 Thread 熊春山
Hello all, @Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay), You say “An ALTO Server cannot provide real-time information". I almost agree with your point. But I want the ALTO Server to support very quick notification information to the ALTO Client

Re: [alto] qoRE: Pub/sub thread; Was Re: ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review(Internet mail)

2021-03-11 Thread 熊春山
Hello Richard, Yes, the two use cases can be use the same “sub/pub” mechanism to subscribe the requirement to the ALTO Server and the ALTO Server can notify the (quick) change of the bitrate/latency of network to the ALTO Client. I just use “sub/pub” to demonstrate the procedures to “request “

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review

2021-03-11 Thread 刘鹏
Hi Richard, Thanks for sharing your idea! I think it's necessary to considering the security and privacy issues. The framework of differential privacy can be a potential choice to protect individual or detail privacy of network without encryption which might influent the efficiency of

[alto] Status of chartered WG items

2021-03-11 Thread Vijay Gurbani
All: Since we have only one hour on Fri for our meeting, I am summarizing the status of the existing chartered items on the list. Hopefully, we can spend no more than 2s on the corresponding chair slides in the meeting tomorrow. draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new and draft-ietf-alto-path-vector ha

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Y. Richard Yang
Hi Sabine, Qin, Good discussions. I support the use cases of the design direction. One suggestion is to look at the design in a slightly abstract, general framework. In particular, the abstract framework looks like this to me: - Ve: A set of "volatile" (ephemeral) variables; Ve tends to be small

Re: [alto] I-D Action: draft-ietf-alto-unified-props-new-16.txt

2021-03-11 Thread Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Hi Vijay, Thanks again for your revision of version 15. I still owe to you and the WG an inline response by Jensen and myself to your comments. For the moment, I have the attached text file that integrates them with your comments. Most of your comments were hopefully correctly addressed and we s

Re: [alto] qoRE: Pub/sub thread; Was Re: ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review(Internet mail)

2021-03-11 Thread Y. Richard Yang
Hi Chunshan, Thanks a lot for the clarification. Please see below. On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 2:31 AM chunshxiong(熊春山) wrote: > Hello all, > > > > There are a lot of interesting discussion on the “pub/sub” related use > cases and mechanisms. > > > > Here I want to provide some use cases on how the

[alto] Jabber monitor and note takers needed

2021-03-11 Thread Vijay Gurbani
All: ALTO WG meeting is on Fri. Please send an email to the chairs if you would like to volunteer for taking notes and monitoring Jabber. Thanks, - vijay ___ alto mailing list alto@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Hi Qin, To my knowledge, ALTO is not expected to provide real-time information. On the other hand is it very useful to convey abstracted information covering cellular networks and beyond, starting with edge. So an ALTO Server may want to approach real-time information but cannot commit to it. Th

Re: [alto] Bringing operation automation cases to the list

2021-03-11 Thread kaigao
Hi all, Below are some thoughts on the overlay/underlay integration discussion. Please see details inline. Kai -Original Messages- From:"Qin Wu" Sent Time:2021-03-11 15:55:31 (Thursday) To: "Jensen Zhang" Cc: "alto@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [alto] Bringing operation automation c

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Qin Wu
Sabine: Thanks for your clarification, I want to make sure the ALTO clients can express to the ALTO sever that they want real time data or not real time data. Also Alto server can express that the returned information is real time or not real time in the response message to the ALTO clients. Ar

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
Hi Qin, Please see inline, Thanks Sabine From: Qin Wu Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:32 AM To: Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) ; IETF ALTO Cc: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org Subject: RE: ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes Hi, Sabine:

Re: [alto] ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes

2021-03-11 Thread Qin Wu
Hi, Sabine: 发件人: Randriamasy, Sabine (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) [mailto:sabine.randriam...@nokia-bell-labs.com] 发送时间: 2021年3月11日 1:55 收件人: Qin Wu ; IETF ALTO 抄送: alto-cha...@ietf.org; alto-...@ietf.org 主题: RE: ALTO Draft ReCharter WG review - extensible set of policy attributes Hello ALTO WG, Re