Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 September 2004 12:21, Paul Bijnens wrote: >Brian Cuttler wrote: >> Last one, I promiss, next will have more strictive to list.. this >> is about as non-amanda as I've ever seen and its all my fault. > >To get it on topic again, as this thread contains a lot of nonsense, >how well wou

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 September 2004 12:02, Ivan Petrovich wrote: >Gene, > >> While I'm not familiar with your setup Ivan, an 8 hour runtime >> would seem to indicate configuration problems, like doing all >> compression on the server rather than offloading it to the >> clients, possibly a high rate of ne

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 03:01:35PM -0500, Ivan Petrovich wrote: > Jon, > > > But consider a DLE that did not backup with a level 0 on > > the last run, but had a level 0 two runs ago. It would > > have that level 0 plus one incremental after it. The three > > older incrementals would not have a

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Matthias Andree
Kaushal Shriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a 40GB/80GB HP VS80 DLT Tape Drive. Now amanda is only able to > recognize 40 GB only how do i make it enable to utilize the 80GB space > on the tape. Is there any way out ??? I was facing this question with my venerable Tandberg TDC 4222 ("2.5

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Ivan Petrovich
Jon, > But consider a DLE that did not backup with a level 0 on > the last run, but had a level 0 two runs ago. It would > have that level 0 plus one incremental after it. The three > older incrementals would not have a level 0 to recover from > and thus have relatively little value. But why wo

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 01:23:59PM -0500, Ivan Petrovich wrote: > Jon, > > > To be accurate, the tapecycle is NOT a time period, > > it is an integer value, the number of tapes in rotation. > > Or from amanda's perspective, the number of tapes that > > must be used before a tape can be used again.

dump done, wait for writing - endless

2004-09-23 Thread Kai Zimmer
Hello, i'm using Amanda 2.4.4p2 on linux for some time now without problems. But the last two backups didn't suceed. I'm backing up about 850 Gb from 8 clients (11 filesets). 8 of my filesets were processed correctly, but now it stopped with "dump done, wait for writing to tape". I'm waiting f

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Ivan Petrovich
Paul, Jon, and Eric, I remember that the estimate phase took several hours. But that was a long time ago and I no longer have the log files. I am making some test run again before I make any more claims. Thanks for the answers. Ivan

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Ivan Petrovich
Jon, > To be accurate, the tapecycle is NOT a time period, > it is an integer value, the number of tapes in rotation. > Or from amanda's perspective, the number of tapes that > must be used before a tape can be used again. In my > case I have 18 tapes in rotation and have tapecycle > set to 12.

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 11:02:22AM -0500, Ivan Petrovich wrote: > > Also, for this set, I have over 100GB of data, which works out to be > about 30GB (both levels 0 and 1) spread out over a cycle of 4 days and > 5 tapes. Each nightly run takes 4 hours--uncompressed. > > I might try turning on sof

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 10:01:43AM -0500, Ivan Petrovich wrote: > Are you suggesting that once Amanda has run once (for 8 hrs, using > gzip both in "estimate" and "dump"), it should not need to run gzip > for the estimate phase ever again, My understanding is that Amanda *never* runs gzip in the e

Re: Amdump keeps running

2004-09-23 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 05:30:11PM -0500, Jason Miller wrote: > I edited [the tapetype entry] > to see if it made a difference and of course it didn't. >From amanda(8): > Note that [tapetype's "length"] value is only used by Amanda to schedule > which backups will be run. Once the backups sta

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Ivan Petrovich
Gene, > While I'm not familiar with your setup Ivan, an 8 hour runtime would > seem to indicate configuration problems, like doing all compression > on the server rather than offloading it to the clients, possibly a > high rate of network errors due to bad cabling or any combination of > all t

Re: not able to compile

2004-09-23 Thread Andreas Putzo
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 23. September 2004 17:22 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hi, i' m installing amanda on a solaris 2.6 and i' m not able to compile > the executables..when i launch /configure it stops > with the following: > "checking for C compiler default output file name... c

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 10:01:43AM -0500, Ivan Petrovich wrote: > Paul, Jon, & Gene, > > My claim was based on experience of running a test configuration once, > and observing an 8-hr run time, then after turning off software > compression, observing that the time was reduced in half. I > immediat

Re: not able to compile

2004-09-23 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 05:58:41PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > how can i test it? i' m compiling on a server and it look the C comiler is > installed! First and simple test, make a file called "helloworld.c" as follows. #include int main(void) { (vo

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 September 2004 11:01, Ivan Petrovich wrote: >Paul, Jon, & Gene, > >My claim was based on experience of running a test configuration > once, and observing an 8-hr run time, then after turning off > software compression, observing that the time was reduced in half. > I immediately aban

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
Brian Cuttler wrote: Last one, I promiss, next will have more strictive to list.. this is about as non-amanda as I've ever seen and its all my fault. To get it on topic again, as this thread contains a lot of nonsense, how well would this compress? It has been a few weeks without questions about co

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
Ivan Petrovich wrote: My claim was based on experience of running a test configuration once, and observing an 8-hr run time, then after turning off software compression, observing that the time was reduced in half. I immediately abandoned software compression. Are you suggesting that once Amanda ha

Re: not able to compile

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can i test it? i' m compiling on a server and it look the C comiler is installed! Is it called /usr/ucb/cc ? Then try to run that command and watch it's output :-) -- Paul Bijnens, XplanationTel +32 16 397.511 Technologielaan 21 bus 2, B-300

Re: not able to compile

2004-09-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 September 2004 11:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put this back on the list, where Jon LaBadie might see it, he is a solaris man. >how can i test it? i' m compiling on a server and it look the C > comiler is installed! > I have set the following variables > LM_LICENSE_FILE >LD_LIB

Circle this, square that. [Was: Amanda Compression]

2004-09-23 Thread Ivan Petrovich
Circle-K is also the name of a convenient store chain in some parts of the U.S. (Though I have only seen it in Los Angeles.) See: www.circlek.com

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Ivan Petrovich
Paul, Jon, & Gene, My claim was based on experience of running a test configuration once, and observing an 8-hr run time, then after turning off software compression, observing that the time was reduced in half. I immediately abandoned software compression. Are you suggesting that once Amanda has

Re: not able to compile

2004-09-23 Thread teo73
how can i test it? i' m compiling on a server and it look the C comiler is installed! I have set the following variables LM_LICENSE_FILE LD_LIBRARY_PATH i 've also tried to set the CFLAG var with this value "-o file_name" but nothing is changed! Matteo > On Thursday 23 September 2004 11

Re: Amdump keeps running

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
Jason Miller wrote: Here is a updated amanda.conf file that is having the same problem. ... I believe the problem is not with amanda at all. Try to write to the tape with e.g. dd if=/some/file of=/dev/st0 bs=32k and I suspect you get an error too. Try to solve that one first. -- Paul Bijnens, Xp

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 September 2004 11:13, Jon LaBadie wrote: >On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 10:59:36AM -0400, Brian Cuttler wrote: >> Of course I now have to meantion a "D" within a square (which >> unless I'm mistaken is an aproval symbol for electrical devices by >> a specific testing company. > >Shouldn't

Re: not able to compile

2004-09-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 September 2004 11:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi, i' m installing amanda on a solaris 2.6 and i' m not able to > compile the executables..when i launch > /configure it stops with the following: > "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: >

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 September 2004 09:19, Ivan Petrovich wrote: >> If you use software compression however, amanda pipes the data >> through gzip before writing to tape. This has two advantages: >> gzip does not suffer from the "expand already compressed data" >> syndrome, and amanda has an exact know

Re: Amdump keeps running

2004-09-23 Thread Jason Miller
Here is a updated amanda.conf file that is having the same problem. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# more /etc/amanda/DailySet1/amanda.conf # # amanda.conf - sample Amanda configuration file. This started off life as # the actual config file in use at CS.UMD.EDU. # # If your configuration

not able to compile

2004-09-23 Thread teo73
Hi, i' m installing amanda on a solaris 2.6 and i' m not able to compile the executables..when i launch /configure it stops with the following: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" and in the config.lo

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Brian Cuttler
Kevin, Paul, If only it was that simple. Kosher for passover is a whole other set of regulations that are depending on other (mostly non-amanda off topic) things, depending on what part of the world your family was from. Peanut butter (my favorite topic for Passover kosher dispute) is normally ok

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 10:59:36AM -0400, Brian Cuttler wrote: > > Of course I now have to meantion a "D" within a square (which unless > I'm mistaken is an aproval symbol for electrical devices by a specific > testing company. > Shouldn't have ;) I'm pretty sure it is an electrical manufacture

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Brian Cuttler
Paul, The circle-K was as non-amanda as the Kelvin comment, just couldn't let it go by. Its one of the symbols (by one of the multiple authorities) that oversee/verify Jewish Kosher food preparation (kosher being "legal, within guidelines", not necessarilly related to food, there are other [many

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread KEVIN ZEMBOWER
'Kosher for Passover', I think. -Kevin >>> Paul Bijnens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/23/04 10:51AM >>> Brian Cuttler wrote: > ...Unless of course the K is within a circle. Then it means something > else entirely. K within a circle??? I already know C, R within a circle, but not heard of K with a cir

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 08:19:55AM -0500, Ivan Petrovich wrote: > > > If you use software compression however, amanda pipes the data through > > gzip before writing to tape. This has two advantages: gzip does not > > suffer from the "expand already compressed data" syndrome, and amanda > > has a

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
Brian Cuttler wrote: As long as you are willing to use two letter symbols why not Kb - 1024 bits KB - 1024 bytes There is an international standard about this, and it is pretty precise about the case sensitivity too: "kilo" needs to be a lower "k" in the official standard. However, Ki (binary kilo

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
Ivan Petrovich wrote: The problem I have with using software compression is that it adds several hours to the "estimate phase." Am I doing something wrong? Does Amanda run the gzip ones to get the output size before running gzip again when performing the actual dump? Strange, because during the est

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 September 2004 04:25, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: >Hi > >I have a 40GB/80GB HP VS80 DLT Tape Drive. Now amanda is only able > to recognize 40 GB only how do i make it enable to utilize the 80GB > space on the tape. Is there any way out ??? > >Can any one help me please That second figure

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Ivan Petrovich
> If you use software compression however, amanda pipes the data through > gzip before writing to tape. This has two advantages: gzip does not > suffer from the "expand already compressed data" syndrome, and amanda > has an exact knowledge how much bytes to write on the tape. > The added accurac

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Brian Cuttler
As long as you are willing to use two letter symbols why not Kb - 1024 bits KB - 1024 bytes The "k" is meaningless without the second designator and you are already case sensitive... "K" is Kelvin ? ...Unless of course the K is within a circle. Then it means something else entirely. On Thu, S

Re: amanda mini-howto

2004-09-23 Thread Gavin Henry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Leandro said: > i´m newbie in amanda. > i compile ok in solaris 7. > > Can anybody tell me if there is a mini-howto or newbie-friendly-pdf about > usage of amanda ? I did one for my column on Fedoranews.org http://fedoranews.org/ghenry/amanda HTH.

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Paul Bijnens wrote: > That's why Amendment 2 of IEC 60027-2 is proposed (Ki=1024, or k=1000 and K=1024, etc.). No, K is Kelvin :-) Oops, yes, indeed. (Don't believe everything you read on a webpage :-) -- Paul Bijnens, Xplanation

amanda mini-howto

2004-09-23 Thread Leandro
i´m newbie in amanda. i compile ok in solaris 7.   Can anybody tell me if there is a mini-howto or newbie-friendly-pdf about usage of amanda ?   Thanks. Leandro. Argentina.

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Paul Bijnens wrote: > Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > > Using software compression resulted in 73 Gbyte data compressing > > > to 30 Gbyte. (I use AIT-1 tapes, 35 Gbyte native, actually > > > amtapetype reports 33400 Mbyte: difference

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Paul Bijnens wrote: Using software compression resulted in 73 Gbyte data compressing to 30 Gbyte. (I use AIT-1 tapes, 35 Gbyte native, actually amtapetype reports 33400 Mbyte: difference between marketing and reality). That's just the difference betw

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Paul Bijnens wrote: > Using software compression resulted in 73 Gbyte data compressing > to 30 Gbyte. (I use AIT-1 tapes, 35 Gbyte native, actually > amtapetype reports 33400 Mbyte: difference between marketing and > reality). That's just the difference between GiB and GB :-)

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > How do i disable the hardware compression on my tape drive That's hardware-specific. On some tape drives it's a jumper. On others you can use mt. > On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 14:15, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Andreas Putzo wrote: >

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Paul Bijnens
Kaushal Shriyan wrote: I have a 40GB/80GB HP VS80 DLT Tape Drive. Now amanda is only able to recognize 40 GB only how do i make it enable to utilize the 80GB space on the tape. Is there any way out ??? 40 Gbyte is the native capacity. 80 Gbyte is what the marketing department would like you to be

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Andreas Putzo wrote: > On Thursday 23 September 2004 10:25, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > > I have a 40GB/80GB HP VS80 DLT Tape Drive. Now amanda is only able to > > recognize 40 GB only how do i make it enable to utilize the 80GB space > > on the tape. Is there any way out ??? > >

Re: Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Andreas Putzo
Hi, On Thursday 23 September 2004 10:25, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > I have a 40GB/80GB HP VS80 DLT Tape Drive. Now amanda is only able to > recognize 40 GB only how do i make it enable to utilize the 80GB space > on the tape. Is there any way out ??? Amanda uses the size you have specified in amanda

Amanda Compression

2004-09-23 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Hi I have a 40GB/80GB HP VS80 DLT Tape Drive. Now amanda is only able to recognize 40 GB only how do i make it enable to utilize the 80GB space on the tape. Is there any way out ??? Can any one help me please -- Regards, Kaushal Shriyan Technical Engineer Red Hat India Pvt. Ltd. Tel : +91-

Re: amoverview

2004-09-23 Thread Andreas Putzo
On Thursday 23 September 2004 09:00, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > when i run > [EMAIL PROTECTED] amanda]$ amoverview DailySet1 | grep oaks > oaks.mum /home/kaushal 1 22 3 > > But doesnot gives me the date info. how do i get the date information > viz amoverview DailySet1 |head -3 &&

Re: Quantum VS80, VS160, SDLT320, LTO-1, LTO-2

2004-09-23 Thread Toomas Aas
> I'm going to purchase a Quantum ValueLoader which offers options of > using DLT VS80, VS160, SDLT320, LTO-1 and LTO-2. Can those who has > succeeded in any of them give me a yell. Thanks! I would personally go with LTO if budget permits. I used to have DLT8000 drive (predecessor of SDLT320) and

amoverview

2004-09-23 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
Can anyone help me in getting the things work for me when i run [EMAIL PROTECTED] amanda]$ amoverview DailySet1 | grep oaks oaks.mum /home/kaushal 1 22 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] amanda]$ But doesnot gives me the date info. how do i get the date information viz [EMAIL PROTECTED] am