Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: On 14/08/09, Frank Smith (fsm...@hoovers.com) wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Amanda will do the compression for you. You define it in the dumptype in amanda.conf. If you have a holding disk, then it will compress the data as it goes onto the holding disk.

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Cyrille Bollu
I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. Hu hu... Interesting... I have a 4 disks RAID-0 holding disk, and it isn't fast... I always wondered if I should use seperated (non-RAID) drives... Cyrille Bollu Responsable systèmes Fedasil - ICT tel: +32.2.213.43.49 gsm: +32.478.23.08.15

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 August 2009, Cyrille Bollu wrote: I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. Hu hu... Interesting... I have a 4 disks RAID-0 holding disk, and it isn't fast... I always wondered if I should use seperated (non-RAID) drives... Its been my observation that software raids are slower.

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Alan Hodgson
On Monday 17 August 2009, Cyrille Bollu wrote: I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. Hu hu... Interesting... I have a 4 disks RAID-0 holding disk, and it isn't fast... I always wondered if I should use seperated (non-RAID) drives... To drive an LTO-4 your holding disk needs to read

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Cyrille Bollu wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. Hu hu... Interesting... I have a 4 disks RAID-0 holding disk, and it isn't fast... I always wondered if I should use seperated (non-RAID) drives... Here is an extremely interesting article that everyone

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-17 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 17/08/09, Chris Hoogendyk (hoogen...@bio.umass.edu) wrote: Cyrille Bollu wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: I wouldn't put the holding disks in raid. snip http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=484. While this guy is looking at things like database servers and exchange, we ought to be able to

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-16 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 14/08/09, Frank Smith (fsm...@hoovers.com) wrote: Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Amanda will do the compression for you. You define it in the dumptype in amanda.conf. If you have a holding disk, then it will compress the data as it goes onto the holding disk. If you don't have a holding disk,

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
Hi Chris On 13/08/09, Chris Hoogendyk (hoogen...@bio.umass.edu) wrote: ... the solution is akin to the Japanese monks caring for Bonzai I liked this idea about tape archives -- constant pruning and maintenance. Difficult to sell though. As for your specific questions: You should be

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Cyrille Bollu
Hi, Here's my (very) small personnal experience: A few years ago, when I tried it, I couldn't enable server-side software compression while bypassing the holding disk with my IBM ULTIUM LTO-3 drive: Tape speed was sinking to about 5MB/s. My backup server was a Dell PowerEdge 2850 with 4 Intel

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Cyrille Bollu wrote: Here's my (very) small personnal experience: A few years ago, when I tried it, I couldn't enable server-side software compression while bypassing the holding disk with my IBM ULTIUM LTO-3 drive: Tape speed was sinking to about 5MB/s. My backup server was a Dell

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Hi Chris On 13/08/09, Chris Hoogendyk (hoogen...@bio.umass.edu) wrote: snip Typically, we set up Amanda with holding disk space. snip If all the storage is locally attached (actually, AoE drives storage units connected over Ethernet), I am hoping to avoid

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-14 Thread Frank Smith
Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Hi Chris On 13/08/09, Chris Hoogendyk (hoogen...@bio.umass.edu) wrote: snip Typically, we set up Amanda with holding disk space. snip If all the storage is locally attached (actually, AoE drives storage units connected over

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:08:03 -0400 Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:17PM -0400, rorycl wrote: So maybe you should provide a complete OS distribution, including the backup software. Like a customized version of one of the live CD releases of Linux. But

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-13 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
On 13/08/09, Charles Curley (charlescur...@charlescurley.com) wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:08:03 -0400 Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:17PM -0400, rorycl wrote: So maybe you should provide a complete OS distribution, including the backup software. Like a

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-13 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: On 13/08/09, Charles Curley (charlescur...@charlescurley.com) wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:08:03 -0400 Jon LaBadie j...@jgcomp.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:17PM -0400, rorycl wrote: So maybe you should provide a complete OS distribution,

[Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-12 Thread rorycl
I'm going to cross-post this text on the Amanda and Bacula lists. Apologies in advance if you see this twice. Our company is about to provide centralised backups for several pools of backup data of between 1 and 15TB in size. Each pool changes daily but backups to tape will only occur once a

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-12 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
rorycl wrote: An important aspect of the system is that the tapes should be readable for 12 years, by other parties if necessary. From this point of view we like the idea of providing a CD with each tape set of the software needed to extract the contents, together with a listing of the

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:17:17 -0400 rorycl amanda-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: An important aspect of the system is that the tapes should be readable for 12 years, by other parties if necessary. From this point of view we like the idea of providing a CD with each tape set of the software

Re: [Amanda-users] Advice needed on Linux backup strategy to LTO-4 tape

2009-08-12 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:17:17PM -0400, rorycl wrote: I'm going to cross-post this text on the Amanda and Bacula lists. Apologies in advance if you see this twice. Our company is about to provide centralised backups for several pools of backup data of between 1 and 15TB in size. Each