Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-16 Thread Thomas Widhalm
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 09:27 -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:43:30AM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 10:32 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > > On 2006-03-16 09:12, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > Should you decide to consolidate, I'd recommend you NOT > do it all

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-16 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:43:30AM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 10:32 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > On 2006-03-16 09:12, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# amadmin IS balance > > > > > > due-date #fsorig KB out KB balance > > >

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2006 04:32, Paul Bijnens wrote: [...] >The "reserve 30" will Amanda force in doing only 60% of free > holdingdisk for level 0, and the rest for incrementals. > >Note that those 30% is calculated each run again, based on the current >available space in the holdingdisk: if you st

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-16 Thread Paul Bijnens
On 2006-03-15 18:05, Thomas Widhalm wrote: || || inparallel 1 Only now my eye fell on this one here. This is not about balancing your level 0 dumps, but with "inparallel 1", you are not using any possibility to do things in parallel, a very useful feature in Amanda. From my archive run in the

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-16 Thread Thomas Widhalm
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 10:32 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > On 2006-03-16 09:12, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > >> And, actually, we did not yet see how many times this DLE > >> was dumped with level 0. > >> > >> Can you post the output of "amadmin config balance" and > >> "amoverview config" (or mail it to

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-16 Thread Paul Bijnens
On 2006-03-16 09:12, Thomas Widhalm wrote: And, actually, we did not yet see how many times this DLE was dumped with level 0. Can you post the output of "amadmin config balance" and "amoverview config" (or mail it to me if it contains too much private information). [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# a

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Thomas Widhalm schrieb: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# amadmin IS balance > > due-date #fsorig KB out KB balance > -- > 3/16 Thu0 0 0 --- > 3/17 Fri0 0 0 --- > 3/18 Sat0 0

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-16 Thread Thomas Widhalm
> > And, actually, we did not yet see how many times this DLE > was dumped with level 0. > > Can you post the output of "amadmin config balance" and > "amoverview config" (or mail it to me if it contains > too much private information). > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# amadmin IS balance due-da

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 11:27, Jon LaBadie wrote: >On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:08:05PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: >> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 09:45 -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 01:03:51PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: >> > > Here are the 2 parts of the config: [...] >I d

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 11:10:15PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 18:13 schrieb Paul Bijnens: > > On 2006-03-15 17:27, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > I don't think this is the problem, but I do not see a "record yes" > > > setting. I wonder if that is needed to ensure amanda k

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Bijnens
Thomas Widhalm schreef: I ran a "amadmin disklist" right now and here is one example for the disks I encountered many level 0 backups. host springfield.edvz.sbg.ac.at: interface default disk /: program "GNUTAR" priority 1 dumpcycle 6 maxdumps 1

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Thomas Widhalm schrieb: > I ran a "amadmin disklist" right now and here is one example for the > disks I encountered many level 0 backups. > > host springfield.edvz.sbg.ac.at: > interface default > disk /: > program "GNUTAR" > priority 1 > dumpcycle 6 >

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Thomas Widhalm
Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 18:13 schrieb Paul Bijnens: > On 2006-03-15 17:27, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > I don't think this is the problem, but I do not see a "record yes" > > setting. I wonder if that is needed to ensure amanda knows when > > the last full dump was done? It is needed for "dump", but

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 06:05:05PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 17:27 schrieb Jon LaBadie: > > > I know you are not using tape now, but whenever you run > > amcheck (you do don't right?) it will complain tapecycle > > less than runspercycle. > > I do call amcheck from

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Paul Bijnens schrieb: > On 2006-03-15 17:27, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> >> I don't think this is the problem, but I do not see a "record yes" >> setting. I wonder if that is needed to ensure amanda knows when >> the last full dump was done? It is needed for "dump", but I'm >> uncertain about gnutar. >

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Bijnens
On 2006-03-15 17:27, Jon LaBadie wrote: I don't think this is the problem, but I do not see a "record yes" setting. I wonder if that is needed to ensure amanda knows when the last full dump was done? It is needed for "dump", but I'm uncertain about gnutar. I think you hit the nail right on t

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Thomas Widhalm
Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 17:27 schrieb Jon LaBadie: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:08:05PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 09:45 -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 01:03:51PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > > > Here are the 2 parts of the config: > > >

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:08:05PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 09:45 -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 01:03:51PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > > > > > Here are the 2 parts of the config: > > > > > > > I took the liberty of deleting the comments an

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Thomas Widhalm schrieb: > I removed all tapes from the config. I just save to the holding disk. I > can live with the daily "tape error", but I want amanda to do less full > backups. > >> || >> || holdingdisk hd1 { >> || comment "main holding disk for IS" >> || directory "/data/amanda/I

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 07:03, Thomas Widhalm wrote: >On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 22:49 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Thomas Widhalm schrieb: >> >> Have you tried resetting some parameters like bumpsize, bumpmult, >> >> and bumpdays? They

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 04:48, Thomas Widhalm wrote: >On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 22:49 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Thomas Widhalm schrieb: >> >> Have you tried resetting some parameters like bumpsize, bumpmult, >> >> and bumpdays? They

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Thomas Widhalm
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 09:45 -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 01:03:51PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 22:49 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > > > > If that didn't solve your issues you maybe share your config with us. > > > This would help to get

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 01:03:51PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 22:49 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > > If that didn't solve your issues you maybe share your config with us. > > This would help to get the picture. > > Here are the 2 parts of the config: > I took

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Thomas Widhalm
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 22:49 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thomas Widhalm schrieb: > > >> Have you tried resetting some parameters like bumpsize, bumpmult, > >> and bumpdays? They may have an affect on your situation. > >> > > This could

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-15 Thread Thomas Widhalm
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 22:49 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thomas Widhalm schrieb: > > >> Have you tried resetting some parameters like bumpsize, bumpmult, > >> and bumpdays? They may have an affect on your situation. > >> > > This could

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Widhalm schrieb: >> Have you tried resetting some parameters like bumpsize, bumpmult, >> and bumpdays? They may have an affect on your situation. >> > This could really be it. bumpsize was set 100Mb. Maybe, because this > setup was used to bac

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:03, Jon LaBadie wrote: >On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 09:22:08AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 14 March 2006 08:54, Thomas Widhalm wrote: >> >> > dumpcycle 8 days. amanda run from a script within crontab every >> >> > day. >> >> >> >> There was an "etc." up there. >

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-14 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 09:22:08AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 14 March 2006 08:54, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > >> > > >> > dumpcycle 8 days. amanda run from a script within crontab every > >> > day. > >> > >> There was an "etc." up there. > >> Presumably your runspercycle is also 8? > > >

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 08:54, Thomas Widhalm wrote: >On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 10:59 -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 04:05:00PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: >> > On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 15:57 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: >> > > On 2006-03-13 15:45, Thomas Widhalm wrote: >> > > > Hi!

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-14 Thread Thomas Widhalm
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 10:59 -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 04:05:00PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 15:57 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > > On 2006-03-13 15:45, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > Have you tried resetting some parameters like bumpsize, bumpmult, >

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-14 Thread Thomas Widhalm
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 10:59 -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 04:05:00PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 15:57 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > > On 2006-03-13 15:45, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > We have a rather old workstation running t

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-13 Thread Paul Bijnens
Leonid Shulov schreef: Hi, NG! I do night backup from all servers and PC's and 3 daily backups to holding disk, and after that amflush (All this backups is incrementals) All backup files is with level 0. Once weekly I do full backup. That happened after upgrading to new version. Is this a ne

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-13 Thread Leonid Shulov
Hi, NG! I do night backup from all servers and PC's and 3 daily backups to holding disk, and after that amflush (All this backups is incrementals) All backup files is with level 0. Once weekly I do full backup. That happened after upgrading to new version. Thanks, Leonid Thomas Widhalm wrote:

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 04:05:00PM +0100, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 15:57 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > > On 2006-03-13 15:45, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > We have a rather old workstation running tao 1 (is RHEL 3) with amanda > > > amanda-2.4.4p1-0.3E.1 . Since t

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-13 Thread Thomas Widhalm
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 15:57 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: > On 2006-03-13 15:45, Thomas Widhalm wrote: > > Hi! > > > > We have a rather old workstation running tao 1 (is RHEL 3) with amanda > > amanda-2.4.4p1-0.3E.1 . Since this is too old for vdisks, we just backup > > to the holding disk. But it ma

Re: backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-13 Thread Paul Bijnens
On 2006-03-13 15:45, Thomas Widhalm wrote: Hi! We have a rather old workstation running tao 1 (is RHEL 3) with amanda amanda-2.4.4p1-0.3E.1 . Since this is too old for vdisks, we just backup to the holding disk. But it makes lots of level 0 backups. Some filesystems have level 0 just every day!

backup just on holding disks makes many level 0

2006-03-13 Thread Thomas Widhalm
Hi! We have a rather old workstation running tao 1 (is RHEL 3) with amanda amanda-2.4.4p1-0.3E.1 . Since this is too old for vdisks, we just backup to the holding disk. But it makes lots of level 0 backups. Some filesystems have level 0 just every day! Is there a way to make level incemental back