Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-18 Thread Graeme Humphries
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 10:16 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I give that back to the audience: > What do you think of a plugin-structure? > What kinds of plugins could or should be there? I would think that the following types would be nice / useful: - pre-backup client and server side - post

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-18 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Peter Mueller wrote: As this tends to be a general "where should amanda development go" discussion I throw in my opinion too: fine. thank you. .) The "localhost" issue comes up in a daily basis here. --> The localhost issue must be reconsidered more general! If we keep this discussion a

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-18 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Matt Hyclak wrote: I guess I would prefer you not link directly to the rpms, as I may change how my repository is laid out. What I will do is make something presentable that can have a persistent link which will point to those and any other files I might feel are useful. And I'm not overly conce

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-14 Thread Graeme Humphries
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 18:41 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Because the recovery programs must know the FQDN of the server and > with everybody being [EMAIL PROTECTED], how are you going to find > the real server? Good question, that. Umm, but amrecover lets you specify those on the commandline, s

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-14 Thread Peter Mueller
Hi! As this tends to be a general "where should amanda development go" discussion I throw in my opinion too: .) The "localhost" issue comes up in a daily basis here. I agree with others here, that there "has to be" a solution how precompiled packages, not only on Linux, can be configure

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-14 Thread Paul Bijnens
Matt Hyclak wrote: How are tapeserver and indexserver defined then? They can't know at build time what that server is. You can use amanda packages from RH as is, but it's not the recommended way of doing things since they have to use localhost. I defined them as "amandahost", and I add a CNAME

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Jon LaBadie wrote: >On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:07:25PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> Let's think something like >> >> /etc/amanda/amanda.conf >> /etc/amanda/tapetype.conf > >I don't think any 3rd party/optional/... packages should install >into the root fil

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Delaney
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:07:25PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Jon LaBadie wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:13:04PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > >>I would like to have some motivated amanda-hackers who try to move all > >>these configure-time-params into amanda.conf ... >

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:13:04PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger enlightened us: > Matt Hyclak wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:45:07PM -0600, Graeme Humphries enlightened us: > > >>Sure, you just can't change compile-time options, like what user to use. > > > >That's the big problem with amanda

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 06:35:30PM -0400, Gene Heskett enlightened us: > >On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 02:45:28PM -0600, Graeme Humphries > enlightened us: > >> > JFYI, I never had problems with the Debian Amanda packages > >> > (except for a problem with cdrw-taper, where the default config > >> > fil

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 11:07:25PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Jon LaBadie wrote: > >On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:13:04PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > > >>I would like to have some motivated amanda-hackers who try to move all > >>these configure-time-params into amanda.conf ... >

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
t;>>>>> >>>>>>moe/tmp/rt3.backup lev 0 FAILED [disk /tmp/rt3.backup, >>>>>>all estimate failed] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>In the sendsize log I see the following line: >>>>>> >

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 17:23, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >Graeme Humphries wrote: >> On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 17:03 -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote: >>>You can use amanda packages from RH as is, but >>>it's not the recommended way of doing things since they have to >>> use localhost. >> >> What's wrong w

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 17:16, Graeme Humphries wrote: >On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 17:03 -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote: >> How are tapeserver and indexserver defined then? >> They can't know at build >> time what that server is. But they must, else it doesn't work, see below. This is also some part of a

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 17:09, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >Matt Hyclak wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 02:45:28PM -0600, Graeme Humphries enlightened us: JFYI, I never had problems with the Debian Amanda packages (except for a problem with cdrw-taper, where the default config fi

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 17:03, Matt Hyclak wrote: >On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 02:45:28PM -0600, Graeme Humphries enlightened us: >> > JFYI, I never had problems with the Debian Amanda packages >> > (except for a problem with cdrw-taper, where the default config >> > file contained a typo)... >> >>

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 17:07, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >Jon LaBadie wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:13:04PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>>I would like to have some motivated amanda-hackers who try to move >>> all these configure-time-params into amanda.conf ... >> >> When this i

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Graeme Humphries
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 23:23 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Graeme Humphries wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 17:03 -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote: > > > >>You can use amanda packages from RH as is, but > >>it's not the recommended way of doing things since they have to use > >>localhost. > > > >

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Graeme Humphries wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 17:03 -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote: You can use amanda packages from RH as is, but it's not the recommended way of doing things since they have to use localhost. What's wrong with using localhost? ;-) -- Stefan G. Weichinger AMANDA core team member

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Graeme Humphries
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 17:03 -0400, Matt Hyclak wrote: > How are tapeserver and indexserver defined then? > They can't know at build > time what that server is. Debian ships two amanda packages, amanda-server and amanda-client. The stuff in amanda-server I believe has these default to localhost, si

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Matt Hyclak wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 02:45:28PM -0600, Graeme Humphries enlightened us: JFYI, I never had problems with the Debian Amanda packages (except for a problem with cdrw-taper, where the default config file contained a typo)... I'd second this, under both Debian and Ubuntu. The

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Vicki Stanfield
. The amanda server runs as user backup, so I set up the client to be run by backup as well. I am getting errors in my amanda main report: moe/tmp/rt3.backup lev 0 FAILED [disk /tmp/rt3.backup, all estimate failed] In the sendsize log I see the following line: runtar: error [must be invoked

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Jon LaBadie wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:13:04PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I would like to have some motivated amanda-hackers who try to move all these configure-time-params into amanda.conf ... When this is done, shouldn't the continued paring of amanda.conf include removal of

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Graeme Humphries
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 16:54 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > When this is done, shouldn't the continued paring of amanda.conf > include removal of those things not specific config related? > Perhaps it is time for a new system-wide config file with > the types of parameters of amanda user ... Or, proba

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 02:45:28PM -0600, Graeme Humphries enlightened us: > > JFYI, I never had problems with the Debian Amanda packages (except for a > > problem with cdrw-taper, where the default config file contained a typo)... > > I'd second this, under both Debian and Ubuntu. The only issue

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:13:04PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > I would like to have some motivated amanda-hackers who try to move all > these configure-time-params into amanda.conf ... > When this is done, shouldn't the continued paring of amanda.conf include removal of those things

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Graeme Humphries
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 22:34 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > JFYI, I never had problems with the Debian Amanda packages (except for a > problem with cdrw-taper, where the default config file contained a typo)... I'd second this, under both Debian and Ubuntu. The only issue I ever saw was outdate

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Matt Hyclak wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:45:07PM -0600, Graeme Humphries enlightened us: > > > Don't know yum. > > Frontend to RPM, like apt, but less featured. > > > > > Do some of those pre-built packages have a way of specifying > > > local preferences? Or is that o

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Matt Hyclak wrote: On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:45:07PM -0600, Graeme Humphries enlightened us: Sure, you just can't change compile-time options, like what user to use. That's the big problem with amanda and distributions. They have to send out binaries with localhost compiled in (among other

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Matt Hyclak
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:45:07PM -0600, Graeme Humphries enlightened us: > > Don't know yum. > Frontend to RPM, like apt, but less featured. > > > Do some of those pre-built packages have a way of specifying > > local preferences? Or is that only with the source packages. > > Sure, you just ca

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
d] >> >> >> >> >> >>In the sendsize log I see the following line: >> >> >> >>runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda] >> > >> >Looks like the executable was compiled with the default amanda >> > user, "amand

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Graeme Humphries
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 14:22 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > Don't know yum. Frontend to RPM, like apt, but less featured. > Do some of those pre-built packages have a way of specifying > local preferences? Or is that only with the source packages. Sure, you just can't change compile-time options, l

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
ackup, so I set up the client to be run by backup as well. I am > >>getting errors in my amanda main report: > >> > >>moe/tmp/rt3.backup lev 0 FAILED [disk /tmp/rt3.backup, all > >>estimate failed] > >> > >> >

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Vicki Stanfield
.backup lev 0 FAILED [disk /tmp/rt3.backup, all estimate failed] In the sendsize log I see the following line: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda] Looks like the executable was compiled with the default amanda user, "amanda". Thus, it expects to be run only by a user na

Re: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Jon LaBadie
t3.backup lev 0 FAILED [disk /tmp/rt3.backup, all estimate > failed] > > > In the sendsize log I see the following line: > > runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda] > Looks like the executable was compiled with the default amanda user, "amanda". Thus, it expects

runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda]

2005-07-13 Thread Vicki Stanfield
the following line: runtar: error [must be invoked by amanda] Everything else in the logs looks to me like the backup user is running things and is authenticated. Am I misreading something, or is the problem elsewhere? amandad: time 0.001: bsd security: remote host morimoto.progeny.com user