Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-24 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 23, 2007, at 5:17 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote: > Anyone have an answer that isn't obvious? > I already said I can't put it on the proxy. No, you didn't. You mentioned that as an option. And stop being rude to people who answer the question you asked. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : conson

Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-24 Thread Mark Martinec
Michael Scheidell writes, > (oh, turn off Cisco's smtp mail fixup was another thing I found when > dealing with odd ball setups) For the archive (someone might find it useful), a link to Ralf's page: http://arschkrebs.de/postfix/postfix_cisco_pix_bugs.shtml Mark --

Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-24 Thread Mark Martinec
Michael, > I tried. That was my first suggestion. That would fix graylisting > (which I don't do), fix SPF an SPF HELO, and SENDER ID, blacklisting, > tarpitting, etc. SPF, sid, blacklisting etc. work just fine on an internal host as long as the proxy is preserving the information about the cli

Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-24 Thread Michael Scheidell
> -Original Message- > From: David B Funk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 12:07 AM > To: Michael Scheidell > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Amavis-Users > Subject: RE: Q about mail proxy servers and setups > > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > > Fo

Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-23 Thread Michael Scheidell
Thanks, I hadn't thought about the backscatter problem. If there is a proxy involved, then they HAVE to set (in amavisd) all final destinations as 'DISCARD' and not BOUNCE. I also think I will try to look at adding it to trusted networks in SA, but excluding it from the internal networks in amav

Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-23 Thread Michael Scheidell
Anyone have an answer that isn't obvious? I already said I can't put it on the proxy. -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Office: 561-999-5000 x 1259 Direct: 561-939-7259 Real time security alerts: http://www.secnap.com/news _ This em

Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-23 Thread Clifton Royston
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 01:50:43PM -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: > Sometimes a large company will have a proxy server set up in the DMZ and > then send it to their internal mail server. ... > #1, SPF. SPF helo, SENDERID > The proxy will be adding a received header, and announcing 'HELO/EHLO' >

Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-23 Thread Jo Rhett
Every problem you've named here is solved by putting Amavis/SA on the proxy instead of the internal system. If the proxy doesn't do the spam-checking, and the internal system does I can name a dozen other problems that will occur, the most important of which will be backscatter. 2-step relay w

Re: [AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-23 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 01:50:43PM -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: [Please post to one list only. Since I'm not subscribed to spamasassin-users, I removed that list] > Sometimes a large company will have a proxy server set up in the DMZ and > then send it to their internal mail server. > I unders

[AMaViS-user] Q about mail proxy servers and setups

2007-09-23 Thread Michael Scheidell
Sometimes a large company will have a proxy server set up in the DMZ and then send it to their internal mail server. I understand that ideally, the proxy server would be replaces with a SpamAssassin/MTA setup. However, sometimes, client, security and company policy needs outweigh logic. I can thin