Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, November 3, 2006 18:27, Jakob Curdes wrote: >>> We do not use AWL; this has proven to be dangerous. >> how ? >> did "auto_whitelist_factor" not help ? >> the reason i use it is that it caches first time senders nicely, with imho >> is mostly spam senders anyway :-) > I would not agree to

Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-03 Thread Jakob Curdes
Benny Pedersen schrieb: >On Fri, November 3, 2006 07:28, Jakob Curdes wrote: > > > >>We do not use AWL; this has proven to be dangerous. >> >> > >how ? > >did "auto_whitelist_factor" not help ? > > > >the reason i use it is that it caches first time senders nicely, with imho is >mostly sp

Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, November 3, 2006 07:28, Jakob Curdes wrote: > We do not use AWL; this has proven to be dangerous. how ? did "auto_whitelist_factor" not help ? the reason i use it is that it caches first time senders nicely, with imho is mostly spam senders anyway :-) > We use dspam and Bayes in para

Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-02 Thread Jakob Curdes
>> I beg to differ with you. On the contrary, there have been a number >>of recent posts to the SA list from admins all of whose spam is now >>identified as BAYES_00 and AWL, because they enabled autolearn and let >>it run on its own while a lot of spam was slipping through. >> >> > >This wa

Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-02 Thread Ed W
> Greylisting is a doubled edged sword, although beneficial in defering > illegitimate messages it also breaks misconfigured mail servers and the > users scream bloody murder when they dont get email at the speed of IM. > Sad to say this is my case here. We did however have it turned on > (SQ

Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-02 Thread CRivera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/02/2006 02:48:03 PM: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:38:11PM +0100, Jakob Curdes wrote: > > Do you use Bayes in spamassassin ? Without a self-adapting filter such > > as bayes or dspam a lot of stuff will slip through nowadays.You can tell > > SA to train bayes from

Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-02 Thread Clifton Royston
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:38:11PM +0100, Jakob Curdes wrote: > Do you use Bayes in spamassassin ? Without a self-adapting filter such > as bayes or dspam a lot of stuff will slip through nowadays.You can tell > SA to train bayes from the rule-based score. Then you get a quite good > database wi

Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-02 Thread amavis-user
-- Jakob Curdes said the following on 11/2/06 8:38 AM: > Do you use Bayes in spamassassin ? Without a self-adapting filter such > as bayes or dspam a lot of stuff will slip through nowadays. So, roughly speaking, how do folks think DSPAM compares to Bayes within SpamAssassin? Amos -

Re: [AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-02 Thread Jakob Curdes
Do you use Bayes in spamassassin ? Without a self-adapting filter such as bayes or dspam a lot of stuff will slip through nowadays.You can tell SA to train bayes from the rule-based score. Then you get a quite good database without much manual traiing. Every spam case with slightly varying text

[AMaViS-user] Stock tips emails

2006-11-02 Thread CRivera
Lately we seem to have a pretty good handle on all spam threats except for the same old stock tip emails. The format of the email is: 1. Ramdom subject, but usually with "you have to read." somewhere in there (not always though). 2. Talks about the stock, great volume, projected increase, per q