Thank you for that.
Reading up on them yields:
not found ... the position in the input line indicates the system choked
on the word 'words'.
words is part of the flashed system.
This indicates (to me) that something got corrupted. I can only wonder
if memory got overwritten somehow. Is there a setting required prior to
flashing that I'm failing to set properly?
Thanks in advance!
On 5/22/2021 9:51 PM, George Herzog wrote:
There are AmForth error codes. Read up on them.
On Sun, May 23, 2021, 12:42 Michael Picco <mpi...@placerville.me> wrote:
Hello!
I seem to have stumbled across an issue.
First code I wrote was to blink the LED onboard. This worked just fine.
Then I went to add 'marker'. Entered it line-by-line ... got the 'Ok'
after each line. After adding the last line (semicolon), the board
froze up. Did a warm boot and then executed 'words' to see what was
there. It came back with ?? -13 5.
What came to mind is perhaps not enough memory is allocated prior to
flashing and I'm overwriting something I shouldn't.
Any ideas?
Kind regards,
Michael
On 5/21/2021 1:28 AM, tristan wrote:
Hi Michael,
Apologies. My memory is failing me.
The LED is on D13 for both UNO and MEGA, but D13 is mapped to PB5
(PORTB bit 5) on the UNO and PB7 (PORTB bit 7) on the MEGA.
Best wishes,
Tristan
On 2021-05-21 08:54, tristan wrote:
Hi Michael,
I do not see the word 'marker' defined. Should it have been part of
the basic system, or do I need to pull it from somewhere?
It is not part of the basic system, it is defined in this file.
avr8/lib/forth2012/core-ext/marker.frt
Using marker is efficient/good practice/etc. but it is not a necessary
requirement to do below.
Then I'd like to see about doing something real simple, like turning
an LED on/off. It's sort of a hardware person's approach to 'Hello
World!' :)
http://amforth.sourceforge.net/TG/recipes/Arduino-HelloWorld.html
IIRC the MEGA and UNO have the built-in led on the same pin (port bit).
The definitions for the chip can be found in this file
avr8/devices/atmega2560/atmega2560.frt
These, or extracts from, will need to be loaded into the basic system.
So longer term, being able to load forth definition non-interactively
from a file is very useful. There are programs in the tools directory
- amforth-shell.py being the one I use.
Best wishes,
Tristan
On 2021-05-21 05:25, Michael Picco wrote:
Hello,
As mentioned earlier, it's now working.
I do not see the word 'marker' defined. Should it have been part of
the basic system, or do I need to pull it from somewhere?
Then I'd like to see about doing something real simple, like turning
an LED on/off. It's sort of a hardware person's approach to 'Hello
World!' :)
Kind regards,
Michael
K6MLE
On 5/20/2021 12:41 PM, Michael Picco wrote:
I should add the following changes to Craig Lindley's write-up:
Step 3:
Under Win10, the correct file location for avrasm2.exe will be:
c:\Program
Files(86)\Atmel\Studio\7.0\toolchain\avr8\avrassembler\avrasm2.exe
Also needed in the work directory isatmega256.asm and m2560def.inc
The image of the directory structure didn't post to the list, so
I'm showing it below (my work directory is called
"amforth-ATmega2560-6.9":
-- appl
-- arm
-- avr8
-- common
-- doc
-- examples
-- msp430
-- risc-v
-- shared
-- tests
-- tools
-- words
atmega256.asm
avrasm2.exe
device.asm (for the 2560)
device.inc (for the 2560)
dict_appl.inc
dict_appl_core.inc
LICENSE.txt
m2560def.inc
make.bat
readme.txt
uno.asm
Hope this helps!
Kind regards,
Michael
K6MLE
On 5/20/2021 11:56 AM, Michael Picco wrote:
Hello All!
I have finally had success!
It turns out that the .eep and .hex files I was flashing into the
2560 were corrupted!
I followed Craig Lindley's write-up with modifications for the 2560.
Changed the make.bat file to read: avrasm2.exe -fI -o
atmega2560.hex -e atmega2560.eep -l atmega2560.lst -I
g:\amforth-atmega2560\common -I g:\amforth-atmega2560\avr8 -I
g:\amforth-atmega2560\avr8\drivers -I include -v0 atmega256.asm
This is the resulting file structure prior to executing make.bat:
The fuse setting in Studio 7 were set as follows:
E: 0xFF, H: 0xDC, L:0xFF
Programmed the fuses; set the new files up in Studio 7 for flash
and EEPROM; programmed the .hex and .eep files.
Have a nice prompt for "amforth 6.9 ATmega2560 Forthduino" !!!
I'm hoping this exercise might help others.
Kind regards,
Michael
K6MLE
On 5/18/2021 8:51 AM, tristan wrote:
Hello Michael,
Getting AmForth up and running from archive hex files on a
mega2560 is reasonably straightforward, however, I don't use
Microchip Studio version 7 or win10 so I can't help with this
tool set. I hope you able to translate the macos/linux to your
tools - and if so a write-up would be very welcome!
As pointed out you need a programmer (such as usbtiny, usbasp,
avrisp2 etc.) and a program to talk to the programmer (such as
avrdude).
Both atmega2560.hex and atmega2560.eep.hex need to be written to
the mega2560's flash/eeprom. Below are the command lines I use
with avrdude
avrdude -p m2560 -c usbtiny -U flash:w:atmega2560.hex:i
avrdude -p m2560 -c usbtiny -U eeprom:w:atmega2560.eep.hex:i
Flashing these file will overwrite any existing bootloader. It is
worth considering whether you are able to reverse this should you
wish to, before flashing the above files.
If your mega2560 is an Arduino style board, and the default fuses
unchanged, then IIRC there is no need to reprogram the fuses.
Once the files have been flashed, you should be able to connect
to the mega2560 over serial using 38400 8N1. I use minicom and
amforth-shell.py You will need to identify the name of the serial
device created by the USB to SERIAL chip on your board/setup to
use any serial program.
Once connected you have the AmForth interpreter prompt and can
interact, compile new words, and generally use the system.
However, AmForth is modular and not all functionality is
contained in the flashed hex files. For I2C and SPI new words
need to be defined. These definitions are already available
within the archive, but need to be loaded onto a "new" AmForth
system. I find amforth-shell.py very helpful for automating this
process.
The cookbook is a great place to see examples of how things can
be done
http://amforth.sourceforge.net/TG/Cookbook.html
And for I2C, below is very helpful
http://amforth.sourceforge.net/TG/recipes/I2C-Generic.html
Let us know how you get on.
Best wishes,
Tristan
On 2021-05-18 14:31, BK Navarette wrote:
Be careful, the fuse settings particularly the boot size is
different
for flash forth vs amforth.
Brian
On 5/18/21 5:30 AM, PETREMANN Marc wrote:
Hello,
I have not used Amforth
But the installation mechanisms are the same as for FlashForth:
https://arduino-forth.com/article/FORTH_FlashForth_installation_installerFlashForth
once FORTH is installed, you must write the programs in FORTH
language and
have them compile by FORTH on the ARDUINO card.
FORTH is an interpreter and a compiler. We communicate with
FORTH via
terminal software:
https://arduino-forth.com/article/FORTH_FlashForth_installation_teraTerm
Unless I'm mistaken, you need an MKII programmer, because you
can only
inject a .HEX file through this device. This operation
overwrites the
original bootloader.
BR
Le mar. 18 mai 2021 à 06:08, Michael Picco
<mpi...@placerville.me> a écrit :
Hello,
I am attempting to use the mega2560 as a nicely featured
development
platform for AmForth-6.9. The machine I'm using is a Win10
box, with
Microchip Studio version 7 installed.
In the zip file, under appl/atmega2561, I notice
atmega256.eep.hex and
atmega256.hex. The eep.hex file doesn't seem to get
recognized by
Studio 7. Do I need to rename it to just a ".eep" file?
Can I start building the platform by flashing these files into
the
board? If so, what is the process to add functionality (I2C,
SPI,
etc.)? As a total newbie!
If it's necessary to recompile and create new hex files, the
process is
unclear. Is it spelled out somewhere such that a beginner can
follow
some basic steps to make the proper file(s)?
It is my understanding that both flash and EEPROM need to be
written,
along with the fuses, [E:0xFF, H: 0xDC, L:0xFF]. Do I have
these correct?
Once I get this figured out, I'd like to submit a write-up for
newbies
and perhaps draw more users into AmForth. How might I get
this posted,
when completed?
Thank you in advance!
Kind regards,
Michael
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