Re: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-24 Thread Ton Sieverding
Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS Ton, Yes, I read Aronson's book. In my opinion, a strong understanding of chapters 3-6 would benifet any trader. However, I think that upon completing the book, many traders would not k

[amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-24 Thread Mike
ahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:08 PM > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS > > > Looking at the table of contents for the original (as found on > Amazon), the subject matter looks to be nearly identical between the > two publ

Re: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-22 Thread Ton Sieverding
think the book from Pardo will tell me more about Optimalization ? Or better give me an extra Optimalization hint ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Mike To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:08 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Differen

Re: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-22 Thread Ton Sieverding
OK and thanks Mike ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Mike To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS Ton, I was referring to the newer version published earlier this year &quo

[amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-22 Thread Mike
Testing, And Optimization Of Trading Systems' could bring me some > extra light in the tunnel ... > > > > Regards, Ton. > > > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: Mike > > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 20

[amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-22 Thread Mike
> > > - Original Message - > From: Mike > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:50 PM > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS > > > Louis, > > Pardo's book is dedicated to the process of des

Re: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-22 Thread Ton Sieverding
broker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS Louis, Pardo's book is dedicated to the process of designing a strategy that can then be validated using walk forward analysis. The sole purpose of the book is teach about the use, and importance, of walk forward. If you are having troubl

[amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-22 Thread Mike
Louis, Pardo's book is dedicated to the process of designing a strategy that can then be validated using walk forward analysis. The sole purpose of the book is teach about the use, and importance, of walk forward. If you are having trouble understanding the concepts, this book may help to clar

Re: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-18 Thread Louis Préfontaine
Hi Mike, Thanks for your reply. I understand what you say, but personnaly I would appreciate to see other results than best results, because it makes it possible to adjust a particular system. As an example, let's say that my 20,50 cross was first and now is second, hence the walk-forward choose

[amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-18 Thread Mike
Louis, I don't think that you are understanding how walk forward works. You always want the *best* values for use in the next OOS. What you have to understand is that after the last IS period, you will have a new set of parameter values that you start trading *live* tomorrow. You don't want 2n

Re: [amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-18 Thread Louis Préfontaine
Hi Mike (and everyone), The problem I have with actual walk-forward is this: each parameters are tested only once. As an example, if I choose a Cross ma (c,20), ma (c,50); and optimize the two variables, each time it will only be tested once. But there could be many results with the same variabl

[amibroker] Re: Difference betwee OOS and IS

2008-04-18 Thread Mike
Louis, That's the whole point of walk forward analysis! The goal is to enter each new OOS period with parameter values *most relevant* to what the market is about to offer. When parameter values change, it is not a sign of failure. It is a sign of adaptation to changing market conditions. If