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ard B To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Chuck -- I have visited the web site and have seen the ad for the $97 book, Short Term Swing Trading by David Graeme-Smith. Here is the link:

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ht laws are changing every day. chuck - Original Message - *From:* Howard B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* amibroker@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2007 12:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Greetings all -- The results that have been posted will genera

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Isn't it true that people who have a link on their web site to Short Term Trading Receive a $45 commission from David if purchased from that link? It may be that those people have a vested interest in promoting how good The system is.<>

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12:13 AM To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Dave, I don´t think copyright is violated by sharing backtest results with AB users? I have no intention to reveal any of my coding without permission from the author of the system. I won´t even discuss

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Yeah, the implication that this system does 200%+ per year seems pretty unlikely to me. But what do I know? - Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? > The rea

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always nice to get the real world risk ratio's before doing the swimming myself ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Ara Kaloustian To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Ton,

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

The real question is ... 1% of WHAT that relates to total investible assets ? ... 1% of Total Assets is one thing ... 1% of a maximum trade size of 2-4% of Total Assets is a whole different thing ... --- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is this 1% p

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What is this 1% per day system based on? - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

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sed to it. Ara - Original Message - From: Ton Sieverding To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Well I am talking about trading the Nasdaq100 Futures. Since you "feel that 1% a day is doab

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

essage - > From: "Torbjörn Ohrt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:45 AM > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? > > > > > > Ton, > > > > Attached is test result for SST. Trades are without positio

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I am only 85 -). So I have still a lot of time ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: t_ohrt To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Dave, I don´t think copyright is violated by sharing

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Kaloustian To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Ton, Sorry, no adequate statistics as I indicated I really do not trade stocks ... The little that I did, I did manage 1% a few times. The issue as I

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you have a still better system Ara - Original Message - From: "Torbjörn Ohrt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:45 AM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? > > Ton, > > Attached is test result for SST. Trades are without pos

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ing as > > well, but > > > there is still a lot of discretion in deciding on stocks lists > > etc. I would > > > like to see a more definitive method before I would even consider > > trading & > > > would be up for a discussion on the other forum. &

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

But then I also know that copyright laws are changing every day. > > chuck > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: Howard B > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:52 PM > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas

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T.O. -- Thanks for posting the "Trade Report SST.doc" file. A few quick questions if you don't mind. I assume it is for Ericsson. Is that correct? Was this a stock of your choosing or was it suggested in the e-book? I couldn't read the Max System *%* Drawdown. What was it? Have you tried any

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right laws are changing every day. chuck - Original Message - From: Howard B To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Greetings all -- The results that have been posted will generat

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com ] On Behalf > Of Torbjörn Ohrt > Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 7:46 PM > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? > > > > > Ton, > > Attached is test result for SST. Trades are without position sizing, total > equity is

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

hoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Torbjörn Ohrt > Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 7:46 PM > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? > > > > > Ton, > > Attached is test result for SST. Trades are without posi

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not a computerized tracking can facilitate the selection... and provide ability to trade in a timely manner. - Original Message - From: Ton Sieverding To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading

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7:46 PM To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Ton, Attached is test result for SST. Trades are without position sizing, total equity is invested for every trade. 10 SEK starting equity, commission 99 SEK/Trade. The author recommends to risk maxim

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: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi again, I have coded the Short Swing Trading (SST) strategy for AFL. I backtested it on Ericsson stock (Stockholm exchange) period 2000 until today. Promising results, see appended results (which I will send if somebody can teach me how to attach a Word

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, May 28, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Ton, Attached is test result for SST. Trades are without position sizing, total equity is invested for every trade. 10 SEK starting equity, commission 99 SEK/Trade. The author recommends to risk maximum 5% of

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7 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? You should design your system to use LMT orders exclusively, the result could well be that real-money fills are on the average better than your Backtest fills. You can also implement smart LMT pricing that takes advantage of

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oblem with attaching a Word document to an email ? Go to Attach, select the Word document and push the Attach button ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: t_ohrt To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:06 AM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Tr

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gards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Ara Kaloustian To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? 1% a day, I feel is quite doable!!! I say this because of my emini day trading... where trading the

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.. Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Herman To: Ton Sieverding Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Ton, to be exact I wrote "a few percent on good days..." I fo

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sis' > from Chande ? Or ... > > > > Regards, Ton. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: t_ohrt > > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:56 AM > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trad

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Ara: You have the right idea. NQ has 20:1 leverage GBP:USD has 100:1 leverage!!! The volatility is in the London, US and Tokyo Opens People - You are getting CONFUSED. Short Swing Trading is NOT a holy grail. Read after me IT DOESN'T EXIST. But, like myself, you may need to do your own

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

ork out. > > Ara > - Original Message - > From: Ton Sieverding > To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:35 AM > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? > > > Herman thanks for your short resume of the Trading world. Just

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To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Herman thanks for your short resume of the Trading world. Just a simple question. Do you really believe that group number 1 exists ? So Traders that do generate with a minim

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Hi, Herman, thanks for the .pdf. It is a good eye-opening document. Clement From: amibroker@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:37 PM To: Ton Sieverding Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Ton, to be exact I

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Original Message - From: Herman To: Ton Sieverding Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Ton, to be exact I wrote "a few percent on good days..." I found that trading smaller time frames and not staying in the mark

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Thanks again ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Herman To: Ton Sieverding Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? imo, the Broker burden is often exaggerated, probably due to memories of when we paid $25/trade

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t Swing Trading' just a quick and d... USD 96 course to make people rich ? If so why is not every financial institution in the world using this application ? Regards, Ton. - Original Message ----- From: MarkK To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:09 AM

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0%, 30% is acceptable and 50% of the trades create a Stop Loss ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Herman To: Ton Sieverding Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Ton, to be exact I wrote "a few pe

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e - From: t_ohrt To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Well no, I am halfway through David Graeme-Smiths e-book "Short Swing Trading" after 1½ hours. Actually I´m halfway through Chande´s b

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If one is not averse to "discretionary" trading then the following two sites are good places to look for ideas. www.dacharts.org www.trading-naked.com On 5/27/07, dralexchambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just to clarify - Short Swing Trading is NOT a Holy Grail, and is NOT advertised as ma

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Just to clarify - Short Swing Trading is NOT a Holy Grail, and is NOT advertised as making 2.5% a day! I'm not sure where that idea has come from. To give you an idea how 1% a day is possible with intraday trading: GBPUSD: === Say you have a $40K account 5% capital risked per trade = $2000 pe

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Just to clarify - Short Swing Trading is NOT a Holy Grail, and is NOT advertised as making 2.5% a day! I'm not sure where that idea has come from. To give you an idea how 1% a day is possible with intraday trading: GBPUSD: === Say you have a $40K account 5% capital risked per trade = $2000

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

m > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:56 AM > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? > > > Samantha, > > I´m only half way through the book yet (and I still have a day job:(, > but judging from the text sofar there should be no discretionary > compon

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e original--- De : t_ohrt Date : 05/26/07 15:19:33 A : amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sujet : [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? OK, apparently I´m missing something. I regret having recently invested my money in "Beyond Technical Analysis" (Chande 2001), because on page

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The book you're talking about is called 'Beyond Technical Analysis' from Chande ? Or ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: t_ohrt To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:56 AM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? S

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amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Every few years this type of discussion surfaces and it is great fun to read It always surprises me how two types of traders can be so oblivious to each others'

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ery financial institution in the world using this application ? Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: MarkK To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:09 AM Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Dennis, 2.5% a day on 100k is 2500 a day

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Samantha, I´m only half way through the book yet (and I still have a day job:(, but judging from the text sofar there should be no discretionary components in this system. Of course I cannot reveal the actual code without the book author´s permission, but possibly I´ll be able to backtest on f

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

--- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "t_ohrt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >However, as I don´t believe >in "BELIEF" or "ATTITUDE" but only in facts. The LAWS OF NATURE rule whether we believe in them or not. Gravity operates independently of human beliefs. The fact is that it is advantageous to us

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Alex, Thanks for your contibrutions which sparked some very interesting trade talk. It's worthwhile to consider trading philosophies from time to time. Mentation (man == manas == the mind) is what distinguishes us from the lower kingdoms of nature. The concept of *trading the edge will erode

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Where would I find the "Ebook" the folks have been referring to ? Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Every few years this type of discussion surfaces and it is great fun to read It always surprises me how two types of traders can be so oblivious to each others' way of thinking

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

T.Ohrt - no offense taken. Everyone must find their own way. There is a lot of bulls**t out there, but also some credible. Ultimately, others can recommend systems - and you are right to be sceptical - but each man/woman must find their own way, and that can only be done by exploring with an op

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long run. chuck - Original Message - From: "t_ohrt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Dr Chambers, I admit that I mistrusted your recommendation but your emphatic response has made my cur

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--- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "t_ohrt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ton, May I ask you want you think of the ebook you just bought? Does the method call for a lot of dicretionary rules which usually confuse me or is it mechanical and backtestable? Thanks, Samantha P.S. I'm from Germany, but

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Mark, So would I, but that is not his game. Dennis On May 26, 2007, at 6:09 PM, MarkK wrote: Dennis, 2.5% a day on 100k is 2500 a day, Yes I can live on that nicely too You sure he doe this consistently? I for one would pay him to manage my funds Mark On 5/26/07, Dennis Brown <[EMAIL

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Howard, Oops, I goofed. I should not have said anything about my friends actual track record on the list. I was just trying to make a point about how a good edge can be found but also how easy an edge can be lost through greed and fear. Now a hundred people will be posting to have him

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Dennis, 2.5% a day on 100k is 2500 a day, Yes I can live on that nicely too You sure he doe this consistently? I for one would pay him to manage my funds Mark On 5/26/07, Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: I know of more than one 1% per day method, but of

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Hi Dennis -- Averages 2.5% per day!? That same $1,000 starting account becomes $294,000,000 in two years. (1.025) ^ 510 = 294,558 Please pass my email address on to your friend who gets 2.5% per day. howardbandy at gmail.com I have contacts who will reward him handsomely. When Larry Williams

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I know of more than one 1% per day method, but of course it will not work to compound. That is not the way a true trader does it. I know a trader who averages 2.5% per day on about 5 trades per day on one ETF, and holds no position overnight. He pulls his profits out and lives on them or

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One percent a day. Yeah, right. Compound one percent a day for five years and a $1,000 trading account becomes $278,000,000. Start with real money and own Manhattan. (1.01) ^ 1260 = 278,567 Howard On 5/26/07, dralexchambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: T-ohrt - the thing you are missing is

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In Dutch it has ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: dralexchambers To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? No - you are mistaken. But I have had about a 5-10% return per month from

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Dr Chambers, I admit that I mistrusted your recommendation but your emphatic response has made my curiousity rise and therefore I just bought the SST e-book to satisfy it. What the h--k, the cost is tax deductable where I live so it can´t hurt ;) However, as I don´t belive in "BELIEF" or "ATTI

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

T-ohrt - the thing you are missing is not your technical ability, but your BELIEF and your ATTITUDE to new things. You seem to mistrust my recommendation when in fact you nothing of me, my level of trading knowledge, this system or my involvement with it (my involvement is none other than my aff

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

T-ohrt - the thing you are missing is not your technical ability, but your BELIEF. You seem to mistrust my recommendation when in fact you nothing of me, this system or my involvement with it (which is none other than my affiliate link - just to make that entirely clear). If you believe that 1%

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

OK, apparently I´m missing something. I regret having recently invested my money in "Beyond Technical Analysis" (Chande 2001), because on page 11 he states that a benchmark for "a "Good" Trading Program" is an average monthly return of 1%. So your system must be something that will revolutioniz

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

No - you are mistaken. But I have had about a 5-10% return per month from this system. Oh, by the way, Grail has an I in it, not two A's.

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Yes!! At last, the holy Graal!! And for only §97. :0 T.O --- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "dralexchambers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I use a strategy called Short Swing Trading at: > > http://www.chambers-media.com/track/SST.html > > I've had some really good results with th

[amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

Hi, I use a strategy called Short Swing Trading at: http://www.chambers-media.com/track/SST.html I've had some really good results with this. Cheers, Alex