Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-06-05 Thread cstrader
ard B To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Chuck -- I have visited the web site and have seen the ad for the $97 book, Short Term Swing Trading by David Graeme-Smith. Here is the link:

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-30 Thread Howard B
ht laws are changing every day. chuck - Original Message - *From:* Howard B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* amibroker@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2007 12:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Greetings all -- The results that have been posted will genera

RE: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-29 Thread Clement Chin
Hi, T.O. The backtest report is promising. A few questions to ask… Is it using EOD data to generate signals? Can AFL handle all the trading rules? Is it mechanical? Clement From: amibroker@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of t_ohrt Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-29 Thread cstrader
Yeah, the implication that this system does 200%+ per year seems pretty unlikely to me. But what do I know? - Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? > The real question is ... 1%

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-29 Thread Ton Sieverding
always nice to get the real world risk ratio's before doing the swimming myself ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Ara Kaloustian To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Ton,

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2007-05-29 Thread Kevin Glenn
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Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-29 Thread Ara Kaloustian
sed to it. Ara - Original Message - From: Ton Sieverding To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Well I am talking about trading the Nasdaq100 Futures. Since you "feel that 1% a day is doab

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-29 Thread Ton Sieverding
I am only 85 -). So I have still a lot of time ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: t_ohrt To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Dave, I don´t think copyright is violated by sharing b

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-29 Thread Ton Sieverding
Kaloustian To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Ton, Sorry, no adequate statistics as I indicated I really do not trade stocks ... The little that I did, I did manage 1% a few times. The issue as I

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Ara Kaloustian
T, Your test results are quite good. Surprised that your trade drawdown is only 12.47%. Can not see the system dd, but usually that is lower. Would be interesting to see results from a higher volatility list, such as the NDX. The results should be better and if the DD is still reasonable then

Re: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread David Smith
Howard... see http://www.shortswingtrading.com Cheers, Dave Torbjoern...I don't have any problem with you sharing results. Just wanted to know if anyone wanted to discuss details on the members bulletin board. > Howard B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings all -- > > The results tha

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Keith McCombs
T.O. -- Thanks for posting the "Trade Report SST.doc" file. A few quick questions if you don't mind. I assume it is for Ericsson. Is that correct? Was this a stock of your choosing or was it suggested in the e-book? I couldn't read the Max System *%* Drawdown. What was it? Have you tried any

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread cstrader
right laws are changing every day. chuck - Original Message - From: Howard B To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Greetings all -- The results that have been posted will generat

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Howard B
Greetings all -- The results that have been posted will generate a lot of interest. Certainly the backtest results do not violate any copyright. But the etiquette of these lists considers backtest results without code, or at least a detailed description of the technique, as spam. Would someone

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Ara Kaloustian
not a computerized tracking can facilitate the selection... and provide ability to trade in a timely manner. - Original Message - From: Ton Sieverding To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading

RE: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread David Smith
Torbjoern (& others), it sounds like a few of us have looked into that method. Due to the copyright, perhaps we could discuss the afl coding on the SST forum which is for members only? I have tried coding as well, but there is still a lot of discretion in deciding on stocks lists etc. I would li

RE: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Clement Chin
I think many of us are interested to get a copy of your backtest report. Can you upload to Amibroker group? Thanks. Clement From: amibroker@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of t_ohrt Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:07 PM To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Subject: [amibrok

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Ton Sieverding
Thanks Torbjoern. Indeed quite impressive backtest. According to an old rule I should invest about 63 - 37/(3,42/1,77) or 44% in this system to get my optimum wealth growth -). About commissions and slippage. How much ? Based upon EOD prices ? And of course here is my list with the Belgian selec

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Ton Sieverding
7 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? You should design your system to use LMT orders exclusively, the result could well be that real-money fills are on the average better than your Backtest fills. You can also implement smart LMT pricing that takes advantage of

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Ton Sieverding
Quite interesting. But one stock does not bring me Spring. Backtesting some other stocks will help to understand what I mean. Especially some illiquid smaller stocks like we have here in Belgium. You will find some on the Stockholm exchange too ... Am I missing something. What's the problem with

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Ton Sieverding
gards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Ara Kaloustian To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? 1% a day, I feel is quite doable!!! I say this because of my emini day trading... where trading the

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-28 Thread Ton Sieverding
.. Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Herman To: Ton Sieverding Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Ton, to be exact I wrote "a few percent on good days..." I fo

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Ara Kaloustian
To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Herman thanks for your short resume of the Trading world. Just a simple question. Do you really believe that group number 1 exists ? So Traders that do generate with a minim

RE: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Clement Chin
Hi, Herman, thanks for the .pdf. It is a good eye-opening document. Clement From: amibroker@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:37 PM To: Ton Sieverding Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Ton, to be exact I

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Dennis Brown
Original Message - From: Herman To: Ton Sieverding Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Ton, to be exact I wrote "a few percent on good days..." I found that trading smaller time frames and not staying in the mark

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Ton Sieverding
Thanks again ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Herman To: Ton Sieverding Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? imo, the Broker burden is often exaggerated, probably due to memories of when we paid $25/trade

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread wavemechanic
t Swing Trading' just a quick and d... USD 96 course to make people rich ? If so why is not every financial institution in the world using this application ? Regards, Ton. - Original Message ----- From: MarkK To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:09 AM

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Ton Sieverding
0%, 30% is acceptable and 50% of the trades create a Stop Loss ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: Herman To: Ton Sieverding Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Hi Ton, to be exact I wrote "a few pe

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Ton Sieverding
Thanks. So in you're opinion 'Beyond TA' is worth buying it. I mean for the price they are asking. And when you're through the "Short Swing Trading' book please let us know if this comes close to the 'Holy Grail' ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: t_ohrt To: amibroker@

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Rakesh Sahgal
If one is not averse to "discretionary" trading then the following two sites are good places to look for ideas. www.dacharts.org www.trading-naked.com On 5/27/07, dralexchambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just to clarify - Short Swing Trading is NOT a Holy Grail, and is NOT advertised as ma

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Ton Sieverding
The book you're talking about is called 'Beyond Technical Analysis' from Chande ? Or ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: t_ohrt To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:56 AM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Samantha, I´m on

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Ton Sieverding
amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Every few years this type of discussion surfaces and it is great fun to read It always surprises me how two types of traders can be so oblivious to each others'

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-27 Thread Ton Sieverding
ery financial institution in the world using this application ? Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: MarkK To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:09 AM Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? Dennis, 2.5% a day on 100k is 2500 a day

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread herb podell
Where would I find the "Ebook" the folks have been referring to ? Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Every few years this type of discussion surfaces and it is great fun to read It always surprises me how two types of traders can be so oblivious to each others' way of thinking

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread cstrader
T. Nice response...I am very much looking forward to seeing the results of your work. The book did look interesting to me too... the problem (and the source of our scepticism) is that of course MOST (but certainly not all) of these these things do not turn out to be that useful to us in the lo

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread Dennis Brown
Mark, So would I, but that is not his game. Dennis On May 26, 2007, at 6:09 PM, MarkK wrote: Dennis, 2.5% a day on 100k is 2500 a day, Yes I can live on that nicely too You sure he doe this consistently? I for one would pay him to manage my funds Mark On 5/26/07, Dennis Brown <[EMAIL

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread Dennis Brown
Howard, Oops, I goofed. I should not have said anything about my friends actual track record on the list. I was just trying to make a point about how a good edge can be found but also how easy an edge can be lost through greed and fear. Now a hundred people will be posting to have him

RE: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread MarkK
Dennis, 2.5% a day on 100k is 2500 a day, Yes I can live on that nicely too You sure he doe this consistently? I for one would pay him to manage my funds Mark On 5/26/07, Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: I know of more than one 1% per day method, but of

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread Howard B
Hi Dennis -- Averages 2.5% per day!? That same $1,000 starting account becomes $294,000,000 in two years. (1.025) ^ 510 = 294,558 Please pass my email address on to your friend who gets 2.5% per day. howardbandy at gmail.com I have contacts who will reward him handsomely. When Larry Williams

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread Dennis Brown
I know of more than one 1% per day method, but of course it will not work to compound. That is not the way a true trader does it. I know a trader who averages 2.5% per day on about 5 trades per day on one ETF, and holds no position overnight. He pulls his profits out and lives on them or

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread Howard B
One percent a day. Yeah, right. Compound one percent a day for five years and a $1,000 trading account becomes $278,000,000. Start with real money and own Manhattan. (1.01) ^ 1260 = 278,567 Howard On 5/26/07, dralexchambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: T-ohrt - the thing you are missing is

Re: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading?

2007-05-26 Thread Ton Sieverding
In Dutch it has ... Regards, Ton. - Original Message - From: dralexchambers To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: [amibroker] Re: Ideas for Swing Trading? No - you are mistaken. But I have had about a 5-10% return per month from th