Re: [AMRadio] ARRL bandwidth scheme not accepted

2005-12-09 Thread W5OMR/Geoff
peter markavage wrote: Geoff: I think you're missing the point here. I don't. But tha'ts enough out of me, on this.

[AMRadio] "Welcome, New General" (downloadable booklet)

2005-12-09 Thread VJB
For those of us involved with local ham radio clubs, there's a nice guide now available from the Society for the Preservation of Amateur Radio. (http://www.spar-hams.org/) Targeting newcomers and already-licensed hams upgrading to add HF privileges, the primer offers an overview of some of the int

[AMRadio] ARRL band width plan not accepted

2005-12-09 Thread VJB
Pete, WA2CWA is using a tactic often seen when criticism backs someone against the wall -- he uses a distracting topic to try to steer the conversation away from the subject at hand. The proposal I helped write (to which he has referred) has been comprehensively vetted after the group I was involv

Re: [AMRadio] ARRL band width plan not accepted

2005-12-09 Thread w9gt
Paul, You are a remarkably eloqent and articulate individual and I support much of what you champion with regard to the ARRL and their sometimes misguided actions. I guess what bothers me, and apparently some others who have commented on the discussion, is the bickering that goes on between th

Re: [AMRadio] Ashtabula Bill

2005-12-09 Thread AB3L1
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Re: [AMRadio] Ashtabula Bill

2005-12-09 Thread Jim Candela
Bob, This is a quirkie web site that seems to change often. Still, search the site for "astabula" and the mug is there. Also search for "amradio" and you can get a T-shirt of Bill in the same pose along with the famous AM mug. I love my mug! Regards, Jim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a m

Re: [AMRadio] ARRL bandwidth scheme not accepted

2005-12-09 Thread peter markavage
SLK said - They placed it in all the ham radio venues for comment. After they submitted it to the FCC. As far as I can tell, we(amateurs) had no input to their proposal prior to submission. Point us to some discussion topic prior to submission. SLK said - I'll give the CTT guys credit for placing

Re: [AMRadio] ARRL bandwidth scheme not accepted

2005-12-09 Thread Mike Sawyer
For fear of starting a 'flaming war', I'm going to reserve further comments with the exception that I stopped bowing in the direction of Newington a long time ago. Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: "peter markavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:39 PM

Re: [AMRadio] ARRL bandwidth scheme not accepted

2005-12-09 Thread peter markavage
Having control is good, sort of like bandwidth limitations. I only bow to my wife and my two girls. Pete, cwa On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:50:27 -0500 "Mike Sawyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For fear of starting a 'flaming war', I'm going to reserve further > comments > with the exception that I s

[AMRadio] ARRL Bandwidth Plan

2005-12-09 Thread VJB
Jack, thank you. Pete and I had a separate and direct email exchange underway, and I feel there's no bad blood. I really dislike confrontation. I prefer collaboration, and it's my nature to spend a lot of time making sure the other guy feels like he's getting heard -- in addition to making sure I