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2011-03-29 Thread Zachary Beougher
Hello Kevin and group, >Back to the point, please let me know if you think I >need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder. >I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is >a solution... At this stage in the game, there really is no solution per say. When there is 30-40 guys on O

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2011-03-29 Thread John Geiger
I think part of the problem is that we are victims of our own success. There have been numerous articles and presentations about how easy it is to get on the FM satellites with just an HT or dualband FM rig (and mine isn't even a true dualband, it just receives on UHF), and this has been so persuas

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2011-03-29 Thread Roger Kolakowski
Not directed at the authors, but in listening to the recording of that pass, I think it could have easily done without the multiple CQ's along with the whistling and blowing into the mike...eliminate those bad habits first and then working on not interrupting quick, 4 transmission exchanges and

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2011-03-29 Thread wa4hfn
- Original Message - From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:03:02 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=- Not directed at the authors, but in listening to the recording of that pass, I think it could have easily done without the mul

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2011-03-29 Thread Bruce
Personally, if anyone wants to control who uses a satellite, then make the satellite digital and give each participant a digital code (which can be filtered later). Include a list of acceptable usage with it. If that person violates the acceptable usage then revoke his digital code and he is g

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2011-03-30 Thread Dee
Drew, Isn't it wonderful that the AO-51 committee responds as well as it does and STILL gets it's lumps? I read some of the threads and all I can say is "HUH?" 73, Dee, NB2F Keep up the good work while fighting those sharks off with the other hand Subject: [amsat-bb] Echo Madness Having b

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2011-03-30 Thread Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL
At 12:22 AM 3/30/2011 +, you wrote: >There is only ONE WAY to stop the mess on AO51. Turn it off and let > Drew turn it on when he wants to make a sked with someone . LOL, Now that was funny. Made my morning. :-) Sorry you missed getting the contact though. 73 KB7ADL

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2011-03-30 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi Bruce! > There really is no solution to a satellite that uses a particular uplink > frequency to keep those that use the simplex frequency or are actually > trying to make a satellite contact and use poor operating practices. > > > Satellites are no different from rare DX, everyone wants a pie

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2011-03-30 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
On 3/30/2011 2:12 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote: > If the last-minute change is done because someone > is frustrated with what is being heard, or so someone can try to work a rare > station or a rare grid, that is wrong. Let me clear something up here. I didn't change the frequency so

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2011-03-30 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Drew, > Let me clear something up here. I didn't change the frequency so I could > work Jim or anyone else, otherwise I'd have called him after the frequency > change. I worked Jim on the next FO-29 pass. I seriously resent the > implication that I intervened out of personal greed, especially from

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2011-03-30 Thread David Palmer
>> Several others have written in support, and >> I only wish more would have done so publicly. I'll just say that I was one of the several others that wrote Drew in support. I think there's sometimes a fine balance between satellite ease-of-use and avoiding congestion. Drew took action to shift

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2011-03-31 Thread P.H.
>>> Several others have written in support, and >>> I only wish more would have done so publicly. I wasn't going to reply to this thread when it started because I feel quite strongly about the subject and didn't want to say something I would later regret. However as I feel I need to show my suppor

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2011-03-31 Thread Gary "Joe" Mayfield
- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of P.H. Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:30 AM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=- >>> Several others have written in support, and >>> I only wish more would have done

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2011-03-31 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
lame war, just wanting to state there is another > side to the argument, and there are a few of us on that side. > > 73, > Joe kk0sd > > -Original Message- > From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On > Behalf Of P.H. > Sent: Thursday,

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2011-03-31 Thread George Henry
Message > From: "Gary "Joe" Mayfield" > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 7:01:50 AM > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=- > [snip] > > AO-51 is a zoo at times, so is 20 meters during contests.  It is the nature > of the beas

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2011-03-31 Thread Ib Christoffersen
." in several languages which I can send to those of you who want to try yourself. 73 OZ1MY/Ib -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] På vegne af P.H. Sendt: 31. marts 2011 11:30 Til: amsat-bb@amsat.org Emne: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Ec

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2011-03-31 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:34 AM 4/1/2011, Ib Christoffersen wrote: >However the only/best way to improve things is to make direct contact with >the offenders of good operating practice. >Most often we can find their e-mail addresses on qrz.com. >I have done that many times - most often with a good result. My experie