[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK Comparative Antenna Tests

2011-04-26 Thread K5OE
Patrick, I don't mean to quibble, but don't you think using a Large Capacity Filter could have biased the Arrow tests? 73, Jerry, k5OE ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to s

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK Comparative Antenna Tests

2011-04-26 Thread Clare Fowler
It is commendable to see some direct antennas comparison measurements being made. Computer modeling is one thing. Realizing it in hardware is quite another. The biggest problem in making field measurements is to reduce and try and eliminate reflections from the ground, adjacent structures and ov

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK comparative antenna tests

2011-04-26 Thread Roberto
Hello,hi support link W1GHZ Paul website: http://www.w1ghz.org/small_proj/hna.zip 73 de iw5bsf Roberto - Original Message - From: "i8cvs" To: "John Kopala" ; "Amsat - BBs" Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:16 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK compara

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK Comparative Antenna Tests

2011-04-25 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi! I posted photos from Saturday's antenna test at N7JK's QTH at: http://www.qsl.net/wd9ewk/antenna_test/ 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK comparative antenna tests

2011-04-25 Thread i8cvs
: Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 11:29 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK comparative antenna tests > One supplemental note on the testing of the Arrow and ELK antennas. > > I indicated that having both the transmit and receive antennas in the same > plane with the ELK might have so

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK comparative antenna tests

2011-04-25 Thread John Kopala
One supplemental note on the testing of the Arrow and ELK antennas. I indicated that having both the transmit and receive antennas in the same plane with the ELK might have some advantages. I failed to mention that having the crossed yagi design of the Arrow isolates the 2 antennas from each

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK Comparative Antenna Tests

2011-04-25 Thread John Kopala
Mark, The testing method for the antennas was fairly basic. The antenna range was my front yard, the only easy location free of obstructions, other than a public park. Our signal source was an IFR-1200S station monitor feeding an aftermarket dual band rubber duck antenna vertically polarized

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK Comparative Antenna Tests

2011-04-25 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi Mark! > Thanks John and Patrick.  Interesting results and a very nice study. You're welcome! John and I talked about doing this a few weeks ago while at a hamfest. John called me Saturday morning, and asked if I was free in the afternoon. I went over to his house in the early afternoon, and

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK Comparative Antenna Tests

2011-04-25 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Thanks John and Patrick. Interesting results and a very nice study. Question---what was your testing method? I can't glean that from the information below. Thanks! Mark N8MH At 08:49 PM 4/24/2011 -0700, John Kopala wrote: >On Saturday, April 23, Pat Stoddard (WD9EWK) and I did some antenna

[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow and ELK Comparative Antenna Tests

2011-04-25 Thread Gary "Joe" Mayfield
John, Thank you for your objective, scientific comparison! I eagerly await your article in the AMSAT journal ;-) This is really good stuff. If your test stand is still available there is one more thing I would dearly love to see tested. Antenna guru Kent Britain, WA5VJB, once commented t