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2009-09-14 Thread Rocky Jones
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:12:41 + From: ni...@ngunn.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered It amazes me that this group does not have an owner/moderator/administrator to stop/delete/kill all this worthless bitching. Rocky Jones wrote

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2009-09-12 Thread myoung
Hey volunteers... ALL WE NEED TO DO IS THE WEBSITE!!! So we can take the dues monies and PAY SOMEONE TO DO IT! YES! Mike, WB8CXO Randy wrote: Although I agree that a phone call is good as well .. I pay dues to AMSAT and don't think a maintained website is a lot to ask in return..

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2009-09-12 Thread Rocky Jones
Bill Apology accepted. thanks...sorry still sorting the email out after coming home... but I would submit that until you walk in the shoes of the ARRISat team members who are busting their pick to try and do the right thing for the members, maybe, just maybe, you should temper your

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2009-09-12 Thread Mike Rupprecht
...@hsmicrowave.com Cc: rswa...@twcny.rr.com; Amsat BB Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Is there a way to make an email to post change requests to for the website ? ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA

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2009-09-12 Thread Andrew Rich (Home)
...@tech-software.net web: www.tech-software.net - Original Message - From: Mike Rupprecht m...@mike-rupprecht.de To: 'Andrew Rich (Home)' vk4...@tech-software.net Cc: 'Amsat BB' amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Andrew, yes

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2009-09-12 Thread Mark Lunday
Chiming in, after watching this go back and forth and feeling frustrated here. The issue here is about holding volunteers accountable as if they were paid staff. It's about expectations as well. Noone is questioning whether the volunteers worked their butts off. What we're talking about is

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2009-09-12 Thread Bill Ress
Hi Mark, Thanks for your comments and your offer to volunteer. Why don't you contact me off line and we can talk about your specific interests. Regards...Bill - N6GHz Mark Lunday wrote: Chiming in, after watching this go back and forth and feeling frustrated here. The issue here is about

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2009-09-12 Thread Kevin Smith
Failing that can we at least stop feeding this troll. Kevin Smith N3HKQ On Sep 12, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net wrote: It amazes me that this group does not have an owner/moderator/ administrator to stop/delete/kill all this worthless bitching. Rocky Jones

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2009-09-12 Thread Andrew Rich
-software.net - Original Message - From: Dale Hershberger da...@alaska.net To: Rocky Jones orbit...@hotmail.com; amsat bbs amsat-bb@amsat.org Cc: amsat bbs amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:21 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Rocky Jones wrote: Noone

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2009-09-12 Thread Ben Jackson
Rocky Jones wrote: Bob. I am told by people at JSC that this is not an accurate statement. Well then, please present who these people are and what they said. -- Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA bbj at innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/

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2009-09-12 Thread Timothy J. Salo
... missed a deadline. That is a foundation of project management no matter if it is paid or unpaid. ... it means someone (or group) is not capable of good project management. I think this focus on project management is probably both unfair and misdirected. First, it is unfair because very,

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2009-09-11 Thread rwmcgwier
Message-- From: Randy Sender: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org To: amsat bb ReplyTo: rswa...@twcny.rr.com Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Sent: Sep 10, 2009 10:46 PM Bruce filled me in on where a lot of the donations go.. Couple others beat me up .. LOL So is there a win-win on this topic

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2009-09-11 Thread Donald Jacob
personally done for the organization lately? 2) follow that with Am I part of the problem or the solution? Bob LM N4HY --Original Message-- From: Randy Sender: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org To: amsat bb ReplyTo: rswa...@twcny.rr.com Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Sent: Sep 10, 2009

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2009-09-11 Thread Rocky Jones
...@gmail.com To: rwmcgw...@gmail.com CC: rswa...@twcny.rr.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Bob,When they stand in front of the mirror, it will break WB5EKU On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:50 AM, rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: Only if people end this nearly useless

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2009-09-11 Thread W4ART Arthur Feller
Robert, Hurling questions and accusations is easy, but, doesn't seem to help. Keeping up with what's going on (the information IS available) and PARTICIPATING in the work will provide a solid platform from which to speak. Dive in! And, let's try to keep the discussion constructive. 73,

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2009-09-11 Thread Rocky Jones
@amsat.org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Rocky Jones wrote: Bob What has been remarkable about this thread, is that it has shown how dysfunctional AMSAT NA is. Forget satelllite It's satellite - by the way! construction etc...people point out problems with the web

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2009-09-11 Thread Joseph Armbruster
2009 11:15:34 -0700 From: wb5...@gmail.com To: rwmcgw...@gmail.com CC: rswa...@twcny.rr.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Bob,When they stand in front of the mirror, it will break WB5EKU On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:50 AM, rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote

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2009-09-11 Thread Rocky Jones
Bill. As I noted earlier I do owe you the favor of an apology. You did send me an email and regretfully it got routed where I did not see it I read your piece(s). What to say. You folks bit off more then you could chew and missed a deadline. That is a foundation of project management

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2009-09-11 Thread Bill Ress
Hello Rocky, Apology accepted. Well, you are indeed fully entitled to your opinion, but I would submit that until you walk in the shoes of the ARRISat team members who are busting their pick to try and do the right thing for the members, maybe, just maybe, you should temper your judgment

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2009-09-10 Thread Randy
Although I agree that a phone call is good as well .. I pay dues to AMSAT and don't think a maintained website is a lot to ask in return.. Randy - N2CUA So if someone wants to volunteer and they use the volunteer function of the AMSAT website and it doesn't work and someone doesn't get in touch

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2009-09-10 Thread Gould Smith
I'm missing the connection here. Dues - volunteer maintained web site Gould - WA4SXM - Original Message - From: Randy rswa...@twcny.rr.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:26 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Although I agree that a phone call is good

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2009-09-10 Thread Rocky Jones
From: rswa...@twcny.rr.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:46:48 -0400 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteered Bruce filled me in on where a lot of the donations go.. Couple others beat me up .. LOL So is there a win-win on this topic ? Randy Yeap. The non